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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WLAURENT,Apr 23 2007, 11:19 AM
I am 100% certain that it is not MAP, and about 90% certain it is not TPS. My TPS shows a smooth change (both the output voltage and what is displayed by the OBD scantool) through the entire range. MAP sensor was wacked, swapped and replaced with a new one.

If I disconnect the O2 sensor (also brand new) the car runs very good in open-loop - just very rich and it will not idle very well. I could see the MAP sensor effecting idle, but do not see how the TPS would cause the idle to be rough if the reading is steady-state.
Isnt there a load sensor of some sort, I need to download the manual again after I reformatted my pc but I remember seeing some load sensor over in the battery area or maybe the fuse/relay box in the engine compartment. If you look in the manual it mentions it when its talking about the MAP sensor, I'm putting my finger on that for right now, My car runs fine but I can tell sometimes its just not running to full potential and it still sputters every now and then but not half as bad as it used to. I'll do a ton of diagnostic work in a couple weeks when finals are over but until then my car can just sit in the driveway and get dusty lol. Good luck
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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When I unplug my AIC the car throttles up and down rapidly.

I tried the plug the two hole thing and it died - but I am not sure why that would indicate the IAC is bad.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Load calculations are based on the MAP readings. Mine are normal per the Helm's guide.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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cleaned the IAC, took all of 15 mins.

yeah it didn't fix the idle, but acceleration seems a little improved! after 52k miles w/ a CAI cleaning it didn't hurt
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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boy does this sound familiar. my car was doing similar all summer, had to do map whacks usually every couple days. acted fine when the weather was cold, but when it started to get warm again I'm getting the stuttering etc again, though not as bad yet. I've always had the burbling/popping at off throttle, and the idle is normally really rough (swings between vibrating the whole car and occasionally so smooth I can barely tell its running). I'm pretty sure its running real rich too, just put new exhaust on this week and its already got black on it, though it looks like its spitting carbon instead of a smooth coating.

gonna keep my eye on this thread.

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WLAURENT,Apr 23 2007, 10:59 PM
Load calculations are based on the MAP readings. Mine are normal per the Helm's guide.
not sure about the comptech unit but the vortech had a timing box and a map clamp. if you are supercharged your map readings will be different. I did have the same issue as you guys and spent a full week in the shop. all I had to do was put new plugs in and change the gap to a not so agressive one .34 what are your gaps now?
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by icemans2k02,Apr 24 2007, 05:59 AM
not sure about the comptech unit but the vortech had a timing box and a map clamp. if you are supercharged your map readings will be different. I did have the same issue as you guys and spent a full week in the shop. all I had to do was put new plugs in and change the gap to a not so agressive one .34 what are your gaps now?
I put the car back to stock and it still did the same thing - so it is not the map clamp.

My plugs are at 0.035
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WLAURENT,Apr 24 2007, 09:00 AM
I put the car back to stock and it still did the same thing - so it is not the map clamp.

My plugs are at 0.035
from your previous posts you said that your car was running the same as a stock S. i was just making sure you knew that it would be totally different. try gapping to a larger size .044 and are they new plugs? mine fouled out after 2 months of use on my car
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by icemans2k02,Apr 24 2007, 08:12 AM
from your previous posts you said that your car was running the same as a stock S. i was just making sure you knew that it would be totally different. try gapping to a larger size .044 and are they new plugs? mine fouled out after 2 months of use on my car
When it was "back to stock" it was running brand new Honda aquired pre-gapped platinum plugs.

I have since put the SC back in service and re-installed the Iridium NGK plugs gapped at 0.035"
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by WLAURENT,Apr 23 2007, 08:58 PM
When I unplug my AIC the car throttles up and down rapidly.

I tried the plug the two hole thing and it died - but I am not sure why that would indicate the IAC is bad.
Try downloading the Honda manual from hondahookup, you have to register but its worth it IMO. I think the manual states if the car stalls that the IAC is bad, I'll dl it again and post back up later.
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