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subframe? or not?

Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Honda S2000 year 2004 model.

up right passenger side wheel is pushed back, not into the motor, but towards the back about 1 inch, after an accident during the rain. This is after replacing the upper and lower control arm, and an alignment.

I consulted a retired specialist and said that the sub frame might shifted. The wheel is aligned with the fender when you look to the side, so it will not be noticeable when driving or walking by, but slightly shifted back about an inch and not balanced with the space provided by the fender. It is still drivable, but the only issue is that the steering wheel is slightly shifted to the right.

If it is the sub frame, what will be the average cost and time to pull it back? (took car to honda to inspected and they said the sub frame is a little off. it is not too visible or noticeable, but is off slightly)

What do you think is the problem?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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any good alignment shop should be able to tell you whats bent
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by downloader,Apr 28 2009, 03:00 PM
any good alignment shop should be able to tell you whats bent
yeah, my bro from honda did. Thought i give the members and peeps here a shot. Maybe one of the many have similar experience.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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you need to measure the distance between front and rear wheel to show the diference between both since , then you are goint to see if it need to go to a chasis adjustment bank or machine.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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The subframe has 3 bolts on each side. I doubt that it "shifted" very much. Bent maybe, "shifted" not so likely.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hecash,Apr 28 2009, 07:29 PM
After you take the wheelbase measurement that s2kwhitepanama has suggested, if there is a variance, you'll probably need to get it up on jack stands or a lift and take distance and angle measurements on the upper and lower a-arms.

If one side is back an inch, you'll probably be able to notice it right away by the difference in the angle of attachment of the anti-sway bar end links from one side to the other unless the anti-sway bar mounting bracket, itself, is bent back.

The lower-front suspension is supported by the front sub-frame.

The upper-front suspension is supported by the chassis-mounted flange brackets. If the upper flange brackets are bent back, it's remotely possible that you have a bend in the strut tower as well. I don't know if the damper bushing in the lower a-arm can take up a full inch of variance.

An experienced Honda technician should be able to find the problem in pretty short order.
yeah, replaced both upper and lower control. The strut bar is still fine. From what the honda tech said, i have to take it to autobody to stack it on their machine to move it back in place. Sounds costly.
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