learnerspermit

I am going to swap an AP2 trans into my AP1, I have changed the clutch a few times by lowering the subframe, however I just got an alignment and dont want to lower my subframe unless I absolutely have to, to do this again. I have read about a tilt method but, cant find anything to elaborate. I am assuming the tilt method is just moving the mounts or something there about? If I do this will this not effect my alignment but not moving the subframe? Any input will help.

Thanks

AusS2000

I tilted, but that was by lowering the subframe more at the back than front.

Boofster

I don't see it happening without lowering the subframe.

What's the big deal about an alignment?

RacerXI

You're moving the inner part of the subframe which the motor is bolted to. I'm not sure how that would bother your alignment at all.

Slows2k

Most never bother to realign, there is very minimal play in the subframe.

If you are worried about it unbolt the steering rack from the subframe and leave the column attached. Then lower the subframe.

learnerspermit

The answer I was looking for thank you!

Boofster

I disagree. I have numbers from before and after and there was a good amount of shift to one side.
You can never bolt it back up to the same spot it was unless you actually re-bolt it while on the alignment rack.

learnerspermit

This is what sparked the question based on the alignment done last week, the tech that aligned my specs with me asked if my subframe had been lowered recently. Also this could turn into the Spoon subframe collar discussion. Im not really sure im sold on them, or sold that they would not need to replaced after installed and the subframe lowered again.

Slows2k

You mark the subframe it can be returned to the original position. In my experience it hasn't changed enough on my car to justify realigning.

Boofster

My toe ended up at -1.46º L / 1.34º R (it was 0 before)
so it makes perfect sense I bolted up the subframe a few mm's to the left.

Not sure what there is to mark.
I made all attempts to center it as much as possible when bolting back up.