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Old 10-08-2008, 05:29 PM
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Here's my recent Used Oil Analysis with a 30,726 mile oil change interval. I used Amsoil SSO & TSO 0W-30 oil. I used an Amsoil BMK-13 Dual Remote Bypass Filter setup with an SDF-15 full-flow filter and the EABP-90 bypass filter. I also had a prelube pump hooked up to the system so that I have oil pressure before I hit the start button.


This setup is working great, and I haven't had any problems with it. It's extreme overkill but with the money I save on oil changes I almost have the setup paid for. If you want to read more about my setup, click here.
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Great numbers. I follow your posts closely.

What air filter/intake do you use? OEM intake and filter?
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it looks good, but you can pretty easily get 12-15k miles out of Amsoil or Mobil 1 EP with a Mobil 1 EP filter (the M1-104), which significantly outperforms the standard Amsoil oil filter and blows away the stock PCX filter

however, the real issue is most people don't keep their car for more than 150,000 miles at the absolute most, because everything else starts to break down by then, so over that period of time, if you save six or seven oil changes by going with this system, is it really worth it? I don't think so...you'd have to keep the car for about 300k in most instances to be worth the hassle, which is why they are primarily used on trucks that rack up huge miles, not passenger cars
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Where do you drive that thing. I drive a lot also, about 1000 miles a week. Changing engine oil every 6 weeks is starting to get old.

Looks good.

Are you in it for the long haul, how long do you plan on keeping the car?
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If you put a lot of miles on your car, this setup really starts to make sense. I was putting in over 1000 miles weekly with my previous daily drivers, and it seemed like I was always doing oil changes.

My car is otherwise stock, with a stock intake and air filter.

I don't disagree that this system is overkill, but I consider it like an insurance policy - as you can see, the wear on my engine is minimal and I plan on keeping my car a long time. I put 300,000 miles on a Corolla a few years back and ended up getting rid of it due to engine problems, including high oil consumption. If you did 12-15k oil changes without the bypass, the UOAs would show higher engine wear. You can't just rebore and put new rings in an F20C engine, so if I plan on putting 400,000+ miles on my car, this bypass system gives me the best way of getting there.

I am not suggesting this setup is for everybody. 2007 Zx-10's sarcastic comments in another thread demonstrated that (I'm still waiting for his proof). There's a lot more plumbing, therefore a lot more to go wrong. It makes a great topic of conversation among friends, demonstrating the best way to prevent your engine from wearing out.
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Those are some great numbers. I have your prelube and bypass oil setup bookmarked from a few years ago. When you change your oil, do you add all 7 quarts back through the fill hole in the valve cover and then hit the electric pump to move the oil through the system? How do you completely evacuate the old oil from all the oil lines? Do you just turn the pump on and run one of the hoses into a drain pan?

Thanks for sharing.
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excellent...
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If you did 12-15k oil changes without the bypass, the UOAs would show higher engine wear.
pure speculation, based on nothing

I am not suggesting this setup is for everybody.
in a way you are, it's kind of a "look at me" thread

2007 Zx-10's sarcastic comments in another thread demonstrated that (I'm still waiting for his proof).
proof about the M1 filter? that's been documented on BITOG

oversize bypass filters are probably a good idea if you want to drive your car into the ground, I'm not arguing that point, but it's nothing revolutionary, they've been around for a long time...a buddy of mine used to run them on his truck 20 years ago, and it had well over 200k miles

what is a little hard to believe is maintaining viscosity for 30k miles...my bet is you add a quart every once in awhile
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Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Oct 9 2008, 02:03 PM
in a way you are, it's kind of a "look at me" thread
Kind of like your know it all attention whoring replies?

This is hardly a "look at me" thread and more of a "informing the ignorant mass that the 3-6k mile oil change is a myth" thread.
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put yourself in with the ignorant masses, then...extended oil change intervals are very old news

'attention whoring" is a a mindless asshole comment I'll ignore
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