S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

using conventional oil

 
Old 07-22-2017, 03:21 AM
  #21  
 
Chuck S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chesterfield VA
Posts: 7,342
Received 283 Likes on 264 Posts
Default

Oil is still oil. : Synthetics may be better but conventional oils all meet the lubrication requirements of the engine. Conventionals may require more frequent changes but that doesn't change their lubrication qualities.

-- Chuck
Chuck S is offline  
Old 07-22-2017, 10:24 PM
  #22  
 
yamahaSHO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 2,913
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Not all oils of any kind meet all lubrication requirements for this engine... Additionally, oil should be selected based on your usage.
yamahaSHO is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 03:54 AM
  #23  
 
Chuck S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chesterfield VA
Posts: 7,342
Received 283 Likes on 264 Posts
Default

Hopefully readers are smart enough to realize that uses like racing fall outside the normal realm.

For the rest of us just use the engine oil spec, it's not that hard. It's in everyone's owner's manual. Within the spec there are probably scores of choices including the color of the oil. Full synthetics can go longer intervals between oil and filter changes but they have to be changed sometime. Pull an oil sample midway thru the drain process and sent it to Blackstone. This will help determine the optimum oil change interval for your engine.

The Blackstone labs report this month shows any differences in API certified engine oil formulations have no statistical significant differences in engine wear characteristics. If you're not doing an engine oil analysis, though, you don't know. Very high aluminum wear in a Mustang engine was detected and solved just before the engine failed.

As for spec I'll be a challenge to find any engine oil that doesn't meet the API SN spec for gasoline engines. Canola oil won't meet that spec. The oil grade specified by the Honda engineers runs from 10W-30 to 5W-40 which means literally any multi-grade oil in the 0W-40 range is fine. All my cars use "30 weight" so I've standardized 5W-30.

And there's evidence here that some engine oils burn or leak more easily out of some of our engines. There's enough anecdotal evidence Mobile-1 in the AP1 engine is likely to do this.

Off to the auto parts store this afternoon for more 5W-30 Royal Purple! Love the color.

-- Chuck

Last edited by Chuck S; 07-23-2017 at 03:58 AM.
Chuck S is offline  
Old 07-23-2017, 04:40 AM
  #24  
 
rpg51's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Vermont
Posts: 2,416
Received 95 Likes on 88 Posts
Default

I am certainly guilty of this - but I suspect the reality is that comparing oils may be like comparing how many angels are dancing on the heads of different pins.

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/f64139...Aug_17_ENG.pdf
rpg51 is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 08:28 AM
  #25  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Temple City
Posts: 8,275
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

^
this is true for normal city driving.

i believe there is substantial difference if the car is driven hard, in hot temperatures, then the more expensive synthetics will show it's true colors.

the occassional redline around town not so much, but the constant redline and revving on a track...better pony up for the better oil.
jyeung528 is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 08:39 AM
  #26  
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,061
Received 32 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jyeung528 View Post
^
this is true for normal city driving.

i believe there is substantial difference if the car is driven hard, in hot temperatures, then the more expensive synthetics will show it's true colors.

the occassional redline around town not so much, but the constant redline and revving on a track...better pony up for the better oil.
Substantial? Not likely. How many miles are you going to put on, in even the hottest, most abusive track temperatures? I'm assuming most track guys will dump their oil after one track day regardless, and it's doubtful that you'll completely shear down and cook your oil in one day, regardless of synthetic or conventional! You're not putting 3000 miles in one track session.
HarryD is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 03:32 PM
  #27  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Temple City
Posts: 8,275
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

i don't think mileage is much of a factor when you're tracking the car, moreso than the condition of your oil when it's reaching 250+ degrees F.

there is a lot more wear at consistent high rpm driving, and this is when the oil debates start to matter.

we know tracked car engines are more worn out than a city driven engine, so the goal is to minimize this extra wear. this is where the oil debates can be useful.
jyeung528 is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 04:47 PM
  #28  
Community Organizer
 
freq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: in my garage
Posts: 20,838
Received 146 Likes on 133 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by B serious View Post
MY00. owned and tracked fairly heavily for 11 years. 88K miles.

Have use 0W30 or 10W30 Castrol syntec, Mobil1, Pennzoil, and also Castrol GTX.

Any guesses on how much oil it burned last weekend at the track? I am using 0W30 currently.

OP:
Its fine. The S2000 doesn't require synthetic. Its just better for start up and shear protection.
just tell us!!
freq is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 06:09 PM
  #29  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
Posts: 4,510
Likes: 0
Received 137 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by freq View Post
just tell us!!

Never!


Ok fine. Virtually none lol. I added about 1/4 quart (close to the same as what I emptied from the catch can). So it probably burned like...1/8 quart?
B serious is offline  
Old 07-24-2017, 08:41 PM
  #30  
 
HarryD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,061
Received 32 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

HarryD is offline  

Quick Reply: using conventional oil


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands