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What does this mean? CEL flashes 5 times before turning off.

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Old Apr 26, 2013 | 09:05 PM
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Default What does this mean? CEL flashes 5 times before turning off.

For those of you who aren't aware, my s2000 won't start. For some reason or another, my fuel system is disabled.

Tonight I installed a new PGM-FI Relay, even though this may not be the root cause of my issue. I did have a mechanic (a family friend) scan my s2000 at my home last week, and it read "fuel system disabled", and he advised me to change the relay, although I was fairly certain my relay was fine.

Upon attempting to start my s2000 tonight, the CEL will stay lit on the dash for a few seconds, and then it will flash 5 times before disappearing. Any idea what this could mean?

Also, she's still not starting
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 05:15 AM
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I think that just means you have incomplete monitors. It has no effect on your fuel issue.

Do you have a code number with the scan reading? try to get it.
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
I think that just means you have incomplete monitors. It has no effect on your fuel issue.

Do you have a code number with the scan reading? try to get it.
I don't have the code. I could try to get it re-scanned, but this guy isn't the most reliable.

I'm going to re-check the fuses and get under the car and physically check wires/harnesses next.

Any other ideas?
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Whats done to your car? Is it stock? Cams by any chance? Head work done before?
The CEL does that for all cars btw if you leave it on without starting it.
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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The vehicle has certain readiness codes that are part of the on-board diagnostics for the emissions systems. If the vehicle's battery has been disconnected or gone dead, if the DTCs have been cleared, or if the ECM has been reset, these codes are reset to incomplete. In some states, part of the emissions testing is to make sure these codes are set to complete. If all of them are not set to complete, the vehicle may fail the emission test, or the test cannot be finished.

To check if the readiness codes are complete, turn the ignition switch to ON (II), but do not start the engine. The MIL will come on for 15-20 seconds. If it then goes off, the readiness codes are complete. If it blinks several times, one or more readiness codes are not complete. To set readiness codes from incomplete to complete, do the procedure for the appropriate code
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by f20kills
Whats done to your car? Is it stock? Cams by any chance? Head work done before?
The CEL does that for all cars btw if you leave it on without starting it.
The motor is original, all stock, and has never been taken apart or internally modified.

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The vehicle has certain readiness codes that are part of the on-board diagnostics for the emissions systems. If the vehicle's battery has been disconnected or gone dead, if the DTCs have been cleared, or if the ECM has been reset, these codes are reset to incomplete. In some states, part of the emissions testing is to make sure these codes are set to complete. If all of them are not set to complete, the vehicle may fail the emission test, or the test cannot be finished.

To check if the readiness codes are complete, turn the ignition switch to ON (II), but do not start the engine. The MIL will come on for 15-20 seconds. If it then goes off, the readiness codes are complete. If it blinks several times, one or more readiness codes are not complete. To set readiness codes from incomplete to complete, do the procedure for the appropriate code
Is there a way to reset the ECU to clear all of the readiness codes from incomplete to complete?
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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 06:26 AM
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No there is no way to force the monitors to run. Do not concentrate on monitors/readiness codes anyway, the fact that they are incomplete, or the blinking CEL. They have NOTHING to do with any issues you are having so put it all out of your mind and get to the stuff that matters.

STEP ONE!!!

get any codes out of the computer, and post them. I recommend going out and buying a cheap code reader.

when you turn the key on after the car has sat dormant for a minute, you should hear the fuel pump cycle for a second or two.

Remove the fuel cap and put your ear right against the filler neck. Do it in absolute silence.

Have an assistant get in the car, seat belt on, windows up, and signal them to them turn the key on while you listen.

If you have no pump operation (the pump will run/buzz for a second or two if working) then you need to start from ground zero.

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Originally Posted by Billman250
No there is no way to force the monitors to run. Do not concentrate on monitors/readiness codes anyway, the fact that they are incomplete, or the blinking CEL. They have NOTHING to do with any issues you are having so put it all out of your mind and get to the stuff that matters.

STEP ONE!!!

get any codes out of the computer, and post them. I recommend going out and buying a cheap code reader.

when you turn the key on after the car has sat dormant for a minute, you should hear the fuel pump cycle for a second or two.

Remove the fuel cap and put your ear right against the filler neck. Do it in absolute silence.

Have an assistant get in the car, seat belt on, windows up, and signal them to them turn the key on while you listen.

If you have no pump operation (the pump will run/buzz for a second or two if working) then you need to start from ground zero.

Report back
I'll see if I can rent a scanner this week or get my friend to come back over. I'll report back to this thread.

Thanks for your help once again
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Old May 18, 2013 | 05:12 AM
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Update:

I tried to pull codes via a CanOBD2 Diagnostic Tool yesterday.

No codes were stored to be pulled.

Any thoughts?
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Old May 18, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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As Billman brought up, does the fuel pump prime when you turn the key on? When you push the ignition button, does it do anything at all? Do the lights dim? Does it click? Does it try to turn over?
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