Yes, oil again
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Yes, oil again
I have spent the last hour or so searching: favorite oil... So please don't tell me to do a search.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
Thanks
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
Thanks
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Many opinions on oil.It's like arguing who has the best looking GF or wifey.
Over the years I have used just about every major brand of oil out there....but my tests & UOA's on my own cars tell me that Amsoil is the best I have used and I use the Amsoil Signature Series 0w30 in my GST,S2K & Z06.The CRV & EXV takes the Sig Series 0w20.
If you go Amsoil,email me.I might be able to save you some $.
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Over the years I have used just about every major brand of oil out there....but my tests & UOA's on my own cars tell me that Amsoil is the best I have used and I use the Amsoil Signature Series 0w30 in my GST,S2K & Z06.The CRV & EXV takes the Sig Series 0w20.
If you go Amsoil,email me.I might be able to save you some $.
\rlr
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I don't take the Mobil1 complaints seriously, it's a decent oil and the TCT is just a poorly made part by Honda, plain and simple. Using Amsoil isn't going to save you from a TCT replacement at some point in the future. But I will agree that Amsoil is a great oil product line.
You should tell us where you live (climate wise) and how you drive your car (street driving, track or auto-x ?). How long of an oil change interval do you want to run ?, how much do you want to spend on an oil ?, so we can help you choose between 100 percent synthetic group 4/5, or group 3, or conventional. As mentioned above signature series 0w30 is a great weight, it should work in all conditions. Their 5w30 and 10w30 S.S oil is really good too.
For a decent over the counter oil Castrol Edge 10w30 Titanium is a high quality oil. I'd love to try Kendall Titanium oil but I can't seem to find it in my area. I respect Redline Oil products but I'm kind of leaning towards shorter oil change intervals so it might be overkill for a street driven car. If you want to run a lower cost conventional oil I like the Valvoline Max Life (high mileage) formula in 10w30, I'm using it right now as a break-in oil.
You should tell us where you live (climate wise) and how you drive your car (street driving, track or auto-x ?). How long of an oil change interval do you want to run ?, how much do you want to spend on an oil ?, so we can help you choose between 100 percent synthetic group 4/5, or group 3, or conventional. As mentioned above signature series 0w30 is a great weight, it should work in all conditions. Their 5w30 and 10w30 S.S oil is really good too.
For a decent over the counter oil Castrol Edge 10w30 Titanium is a high quality oil. I'd love to try Kendall Titanium oil but I can't seem to find it in my area. I respect Redline Oil products but I'm kind of leaning towards shorter oil change intervals so it might be overkill for a street driven car. If you want to run a lower cost conventional oil I like the Valvoline Max Life (high mileage) formula in 10w30, I'm using it right now as a break-in oil.
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Now that I know Amsoil will ship overseas, I am going to go with running that again next oil change. It beats spending 10,500 yen on a can of this...
I have run Amsoil 5w30 and Mobil 1 10w30 for most of my S2ks life. I prefer the amsoil.
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Ok, Amsoil it is, but what weight?
And why are some running 0W30 or 0W20 and not 10W30?
I will not be driving the car below 50 degrees.
I VTEC often as I like to enjoy my S when I do drive it which is not often (3-4K miles/yr)
Isn't 0/20 or 0/30 bad for this car?
And why are some running 0W30 or 0W20 and not 10W30?
I will not be driving the car below 50 degrees.
I VTEC often as I like to enjoy my S when I do drive it which is not often (3-4K miles/yr)
Isn't 0/20 or 0/30 bad for this car?
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I have spent the last hour or so searching: favorite oil... So please don't tell me to do a search.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
As for Royal Purple (RP): all the data that I've seen - especially regarding wear protection and volatility - shows RP is no better, and in many cases worse than even cheap mineral base oils. Castrol GTX (as in conventional non-syn oil) in fact showed several times the wear protection over RP. Castrol GTX is actually better than standard Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, Mobil 1 EP, Quaker State Synthetics with regard to wear protection and NOACK Volatility. However, Castrol GTX performs poorly in thin film oxygen uptake testing - which ultimately means it breaks down faster than most synthetic oils and can result in sludge over the long haul. That - and the fact it doesn't work so well in cold weather. Both indicate a high level of paraffin use - think old Pennzoil and a sludgy engine. Not the oil I'd use either.
RP IMHO is garbage, and all the data I've seen to date demonstrates that.
Royal Purple is marketing and little more. The same is true for Lucas Oil. Available analysis of both product lines shows them to be substandard oils that cost a lot.
If you want to buy a decent product (and it's got to come from a local store) to impress and regale your friends with stories of motor oil with - buy Mobil 1 Extended Performance. If you want to use the best motor oil you can run in your S2000 - use Amsoil 10W30 (ATM).
RP IMHO is garbage, and all the data I've seen to date demonstrates that.
Royal Purple is marketing and little more. The same is true for Lucas Oil. Available analysis of both product lines shows them to be substandard oils that cost a lot.
If you want to buy a decent product (and it's got to come from a local store) to impress and regale your friends with stories of motor oil with - buy Mobil 1 Extended Performance. If you want to use the best motor oil you can run in your S2000 - use Amsoil 10W30 (ATM).
I run Amsoil 5w30 to get a bit better startup protection over 10w30, even at 70 degrees F you can benefit from quicker start-up protection. I didn't go the 0w30 due to the higher level of volatility burn-off so I compromised with 5w30, but their 0w30 is top notch. Plus the last formulation I seen of Amsoil 5w30 used some moly additive which their other weights dont all use.
I ran 5w40 last summer but I don't think I seen any greater protection running the extra weight, so this year I'm running 5w30. I'll have some used oil analysis info to compare the two by end of summer.
One of the best used oil analysis data I have ever seen was an S2K owner who ran Amsoil 0w30 SSO for a 35,000 mile oil change interval. The results were stellar, the owner is a member on these forums as well as BITOG.
I ran 5w40 last summer but I don't think I seen any greater protection running the extra weight, so this year I'm running 5w30. I'll have some used oil analysis info to compare the two by end of summer.
One of the best used oil analysis data I have ever seen was an S2K owner who ran Amsoil 0w30 SSO for a 35,000 mile oil change interval. The results were stellar, the owner is a member on these forums as well as BITOG.
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These oil threads are always worth a good giggle. What people use in their cars is purely personal preference. I know of no S2000 that have blown an engine because of using the "wrong" oil - running low on oil, yes, but not from running the recommended grade and rating of oil. You could even go to Walmart and buy whatever they have on the shelf, so long as it's the required viscosity and API rating, it will do just fine in the car. Back in the day, it was well documented that "dino" oil of the standard 10W30 analyzed perfectly after 7500 miles in the car and still had lots of oil life left. If you follow what the owner's manual says for change interval, viscosity and rating, your engine will be the same whether you use the most expensive Motul oil or the over-kill Amsoil or the no name brand at Walmart. No owner's manual? Why not? Any responsible car owner, especially the owner of a high performance car like the S2000 will go to any lengths to get an owner's manual.
If all else fails, you can read what the oil fill cap says.
If all else fails, you can read what the oil fill cap says.
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I have spent the last hour or so searching: favorite oil... So please don't tell me to do a search.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
Thanks
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
Thanks
or...
you could just spend 10 seconds to write something to the effect of "I searched for an hour. Don't tell me to search." to attempt to limit the negative responses you're likely to get when you create a thread which adds nothing of value to the forums.
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Originally Posted by Sharps SSS' timestamp='1368236489' post='22534694
I have spent the last hour or so searching: favorite oil... So please don't tell me to do a search.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
I read about VTEC problems with Mobil 1, so that scares me.
Some people saying bad things about Royal Purple, not sure why, yes please tell me.
The consensus if there is one, is Amsoil, but there are many different types of Amsoil including weights.
So please tell me which one to use and which weight.
Cost is not important.
As for Royal Purple (RP): all the data that I've seen - especially regarding wear protection and volatility - shows RP is no better, and in many cases worse than even cheap mineral base oils. Castrol GTX (as in conventional non-syn oil) in fact showed several times the wear protection over RP. Castrol GTX is actually better than standard Mobil 1, Pennzoil Platinum, Mobil 1 EP, Quaker State Synthetics with regard to wear protection and NOACK Volatility. However, Castrol GTX performs poorly in thin film oxygen uptake testing - which ultimately means it breaks down faster than most synthetic oils and can result in sludge over the long haul. That - and the fact it doesn't work so well in cold weather. Both indicate a high level of paraffin use - think old Pennzoil and a sludgy engine. Not the oil I'd use either.
RP IMHO is garbage, and all the data I've seen to date demonstrates that.
Royal Purple is marketing and little more. The same is true for Lucas Oil. Available analysis of both product lines shows them to be substandard oils that cost a lot.
If you want to buy a decent product (and it's got to come from a local store) to impress and regale your friends with stories of motor oil with - buy Mobil 1 Extended Performance. If you want to use the best motor oil you can run in your S2000 - use Amsoil 10W30 (ATM).
RP IMHO is garbage, and all the data I've seen to date demonstrates that.
Royal Purple is marketing and little more. The same is true for Lucas Oil. Available analysis of both product lines shows them to be substandard oils that cost a lot.
If you want to buy a decent product (and it's got to come from a local store) to impress and regale your friends with stories of motor oil with - buy Mobil 1 Extended Performance. If you want to use the best motor oil you can run in your S2000 - use Amsoil 10W30 (ATM).
I run Amsoil 5w30 to get a bit better startup protection over 10w30, even at 70 degrees F you can benefit from quicker start-up protection. I didn't go the 0w30 due to the higher level of volatility burn-off so I compromised with 5w30, but their 0w30 is top notch. Plus the last formulation I seen of Amsoil 5w30 used some moly additive which their other weights dont all use.
I ran 5w40 last summer but I don't think I seen any greater protection running the extra weight, so this year I'm running 5w30. I'll have some used oil analysis info to compare the two by end of summer.
One of the best used oil analysis data I have ever seen was an S2K owner who ran Amsoil 0w30 SSO for a 35,000 mile oil change interval. The results were stellar, the owner is a member on these forums as well as BITOG.
I ran 5w40 last summer but I don't think I seen any greater protection running the extra weight, so this year I'm running 5w30. I'll have some used oil analysis info to compare the two by end of summer.
One of the best used oil analysis data I have ever seen was an S2K owner who ran Amsoil 0w30 SSO for a 35,000 mile oil change interval. The results were stellar, the owner is a member on these forums as well as BITOG.
This is the spirit I expect on this forum!
Thanks again.