Car Talk - 2019
12-13-2018, 08:48 AM
#32
CAR and driver: 2019 Honda Passport
UPDATE 12/5/18: Production of the 2019 Passport began in Lincoln, Alabama, today. It will be available in dealerships in early 2019, Honda says, but pricing is still forthcoming. Don't expect the Passport to cost much less than the $32,445 Pilot LX, if at all, given its higher level of standard equipment.
Honda is getting a new stamp in its—ahem—passport this coming year. Destination? More crossover sales, of course, by way of stamping out an all-new Passport SUV from its factory in Lincoln, Alabama. Resurrecting a name last used on an Isuzu-cum-Honda SUV two decades ago, the Passport is a two-row, mid-size crossover that fills the void in Honda's lineup between the compact CR-V and the three-row Pilot.
The Passport is way more Pilot than CR-V, although it resembles a second-generation Subaru Forester wearing a Pilot mask. That perky, familiar stature is no accident. Taking direct aim at popular two-row utes such as the Ford Edge, the Nissan Murano, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the Passport eschews those first two competitors' road-focused, stylish personas, instead aping the Jeep's adventurous, off-road-capable image. The Passport's styling is a collection of blocky shapes, black plastic cladding, and (slightly) meatier tires than you'll find on the doughy, bulbous-looking Pilot.
Snappier duds aside, the Passport is little more than a truncated Pilot. The two SUVs share a 111.0-inch wheelbase, and Honda simply lopped 6.5 inches from the Pilot's length (mostly from the rear overhang) and removed the third-row seat. Those changes, along with unique rear styling, are what most separate the Passport from the Pilot.
^Interesting but the Passport was a POS when Isuzu made it so why keep that name? My son may be buying a new vehicle next year. His dad keeps pushing Subarus but I'm all Honda. Maybe this new one will suit his fancy.
UPDATE 12/5/18: Production of the 2019 Passport began in Lincoln, Alabama, today. It will be available in dealerships in early 2019, Honda says, but pricing is still forthcoming. Don't expect the Passport to cost much less than the $32,445 Pilot LX, if at all, given its higher level of standard equipment.
Honda is getting a new stamp in its—ahem—passport this coming year. Destination? More crossover sales, of course, by way of stamping out an all-new Passport SUV from its factory in Lincoln, Alabama. Resurrecting a name last used on an Isuzu-cum-Honda SUV two decades ago, the Passport is a two-row, mid-size crossover that fills the void in Honda's lineup between the compact CR-V and the three-row Pilot.
The Passport is way more Pilot than CR-V, although it resembles a second-generation Subaru Forester wearing a Pilot mask. That perky, familiar stature is no accident. Taking direct aim at popular two-row utes such as the Ford Edge, the Nissan Murano, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the Passport eschews those first two competitors' road-focused, stylish personas, instead aping the Jeep's adventurous, off-road-capable image. The Passport's styling is a collection of blocky shapes, black plastic cladding, and (slightly) meatier tires than you'll find on the doughy, bulbous-looking Pilot.
Snappier duds aside, the Passport is little more than a truncated Pilot. The two SUVs share a 111.0-inch wheelbase, and Honda simply lopped 6.5 inches from the Pilot's length (mostly from the rear overhang) and removed the third-row seat. Those changes, along with unique rear styling, are what most separate the Passport from the Pilot.
^Interesting but the Passport was a POS when Isuzu made it so why keep that name? My son may be buying a new vehicle next year. His dad keeps pushing Subarus but I'm all Honda. Maybe this new one will suit his fancy.
12-13-2018, 08:51 AM
#33
Don't mean to dislodge the Miata and Tesla discussion, but is this where I should come in 2019 for marital (and financial) advice when I find myself bidding on some pre-1970 car on BAT in the mid afternoon?
Almost got myself in trouble last week bidding on a Morris Minor, and then a TR4 race car. And then I had my finger on the bid button for a sweet TR6 but managed to restrain myself.
Levi asked what I planned to do with another car. "I dunno" was my earnest reply.
Almost got myself in trouble last week bidding on a Morris Minor, and then a TR4 race car. And then I had my finger on the bid button for a sweet TR6 but managed to restrain myself.
Levi asked what I planned to do with another car. "I dunno" was my earnest reply.
12-13-2018, 09:58 AM
#34
Thread Starter
Sure is, take that money you would have spent at BAT and mortgage your house so you can get a Ken Prather motor for that MGA race car.
12-13-2018, 10:02 AM
#35
Thread Starter
12-13-2018, 10:32 AM
#36
12-13-2018, 10:47 AM
#37
12-13-2018, 11:08 AM
#38
Sure is, take that money you would have spent at BAT and mortgage your house so you can get a Ken Prather motor for that MGA race car.
Someday soon, I have to set aside my distractions and start building the engine.
But first, just where did I put Dr. Doolin's video step by step guide to building the MG engine?
12-13-2018, 03:27 PM
#39
12-14-2018, 04:38 AM
#40
Bill, if 0-60 is important go to the other end of the scale.
My current objet du fascination is the AMG GT-S which comes in somewhere in the mid 3's. 0-100 is a tick over the s2000's 0-60 time.
Remarkably it is very similar to the S2000. front mid-engine, but rear mounted 7 spd dual clutch gearbox/diff assembly.
the s2000 breaks were very good, the gt-s are phenomenal, especially the ceramic.
It will weigh in about 1,000 lbs heavier than the s2000, but with 3 times the torque and it starts real low. 300+ ft-lbs at 1k revs.
all the while recognizing that the you could get the Miata and the BMW for the price of the used AMG.
The GT-C is out there if you prefer the convertible but haven't made it to the market in any reasonable price range yet. ( with more power)
Mind you the AMG would have low miles because apparently the folks who buy them only fondle the fenders, take pictures and replace the wheels with some custom monstrosities.
SWMBO says no or it would be in the garage now with it's cousin the AMG S63 coupe.
and yes i would trade the s2000 for this one.
My current objet du fascination is the AMG GT-S which comes in somewhere in the mid 3's. 0-100 is a tick over the s2000's 0-60 time.
Remarkably it is very similar to the S2000. front mid-engine, but rear mounted 7 spd dual clutch gearbox/diff assembly.
the s2000 breaks were very good, the gt-s are phenomenal, especially the ceramic.
It will weigh in about 1,000 lbs heavier than the s2000, but with 3 times the torque and it starts real low. 300+ ft-lbs at 1k revs.
all the while recognizing that the you could get the Miata and the BMW for the price of the used AMG.
The GT-C is out there if you prefer the convertible but haven't made it to the market in any reasonable price range yet. ( with more power)
Mind you the AMG would have low miles because apparently the folks who buy them only fondle the fenders, take pictures and replace the wheels with some custom monstrosities.
Powertrain
Engine typeM178 TwinTurbo V8Displacement4.0 l (244 ci)Power510 ps (503 bhp / 375 kw) @ 6250 rpmTorque649 Nm (479 lb-ft) @ 1750 rpmPower / liter127 ps (126 hp)Transmission7-Speed AMG SpeedShift MCTLayoutfront engine, rear wheel drive0 - 30 mph1.3 s0 - 40 mph1.8 s0 - 50 mph2.4 s0 - 60 mph3.0 s0 - 70 mph3.9 s0 - 80 mph4.7 s0 - 90 mph5.8 s0 - 100 mph6.9 sSWMBO says no or it would be in the garage now with it's cousin the AMG S63 coupe.
and yes i would trade the s2000 for this one.