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Old 05-04-2017, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by skunkworks
Thanks for the insight. I was about to believe what 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree upon: The amount of water vapor in the atmosphere exists in direct relation to the temperature. If you increase the temperature, more water evaporates and becomes vapor. And when something else causes a temperature increase (such as extra CO2 from fossil fuels), more water evaporates.

Maybe the results of their studies and leanings are a result of peer pressures.

Does that mean all the extra glacier water will just evaporate?
Old 05-05-2017, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill
Does that mean all the extra glacier water will just evaporate?
sure, right up to 120% relative humidity.

that's why Bandar Iran hit a heat index of 165° two summers ago.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8ecbcdc1d3fc
Old 05-05-2017, 05:24 AM
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Heavy rain here today. But we do need it.
Old 05-05-2017, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill
Does that mean all the extra glacier water will just evaporate?
If all of the arctic (North Pole) ice were to melt guess what that would do to the ocean water level? Nothing! Why? All that ice (water) is floating; it is already in the "pool" of water. The ice stored on Antartica (South Pole) and Greenland is another matter. Since that is on land, that ice melt contributes to the ocean volume. However, there is a lot of ice in Antartica that is not on land but floating offshore. No impact there.
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Originally Posted by cosmomiller
If all of the arctic (North Pole) ice were to melt guess what that would do to the ocean water level? Nothing! Why? All that ice (water) is floating; it is already in the "pool" of water. The ice stored on Antartica (South Pole) and Greenland is another matter. Since that is on land, that ice melt contributes to the ocean volume. However, there is a lot of ice in Antartica that is not on land but floating offshore. No impact there.
Not so fast.... It's not really that simple.
Melting ice and its effect on water levels
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The vast majority is actually on land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_ice_sheet
if it all melted the sea level would rise 58 meters.
i.e Florida would become a sea floor.
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Anecdotal evidence: I grew up on Coronado Island and spent a fair amount of my youth fishing out at the Naval Base. Many hours spent on the edge of piers watching the lures float back between pilings. I can go back now and positively observe the barnacles and muscles are in exactly the same position as they were in the 60s and 70s. No change in ocean levels there.
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Originally Posted by cosmomiller
Anecdotal evidence: I grew up on Coronado Island and spent a fair amount of my youth fishing out at the Naval Base. Many hours spent on the edge of piers watching the lures float back between pilings. I can go back now and positively observe the barnacles and muscles are in exactly the same position as they were in the 60s and 70s. No change in ocean levels there.
It’s probably more than a casual childhood observance

In 2014 the global sea levels were 2.6 inches above a 1993 average—the highest annual average in the satellite record (1993-2014 according to the the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)). And according to NOAA our Sea levels continue to rise at a rate of about one-eighth of an inch per year. It’s now 2017, so add 3/8 of an inch since NOAA’s 2014 report.

Maybe the rise isn’t obvious to you - yet, but if you live another 50 years report back on your findings -or- have your children or grandchildren do the same. The results would be interesting.

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There is nothing more reasonable than anecdotal, unsubstantiated, unscientific evidence of a the world's most brilliant child with an idetic memory of barnacle placement. Yup, no change there.
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Originally Posted by Zippy
There is nothing more reasonable than anecdotal, unsubstantiated, unscientific evidence of a the world's most brilliant child with an idetic memory of barnacle placement. Yup, no change there.
I got'a remember that one.


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