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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Sep 16 2008, 05:24 PM
It is not clear. It all depends on how many others they will drag down with them. Credit Default Swaps involve many many companies. If a big holder of notes gets hit when another big company goes into defualt, they all start falling like a house of cards. Many folks yel "let 'em all fall", but what they don;t realize is that their own investments will just disapear. Be careful what you cheer for.
It's the financial equivalent of what happened with Enron and their house of cards. Other energy companies fell like dominoes and people lost vast fortunes. I wish Ken Lay had lived long enough to spend the rest of his miserable life in jail, but I didn't see anyone passing out government backed loans to all the stockholders of those companies.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Enron did not have worldwide ramificiations that Fanny or AIG do.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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Excellent point though the folks that went broke probably don't care.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Now the money market funds are impacted.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/mone...1CC274AB5103%7d
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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there will be substantial aftershocks for a while to come.
at one point yesterday bank funds rates were at 30%.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by martha,Sep 16 2008, 06:22 PM
It's the financial equivalent of what happened with Enron and their house of cards. Other energy companies fell like dominoes and people lost vast fortunes. I wish Ken Lay had lived long enough to spend the rest of his miserable life in jail, but I didn't see anyone passing out government backed loans to all the stockholders of those companies.
At the moment, the only difference I see is that these giant institutions were only stupid and greedy. Enron execs were actually cheats and liars. Of course, once the investigation/litigation gets under way, we may learn they are all cut from the same cloth.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Wow! 85,000,000,000 bailout for AIG! How much did the top three cake eaters receive for salary and bonus in the past three years?
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hunsfutz2,Sep 16 2008, 09:40 PM
Wow! 85,000,000,000 bailout for AIG! How much did the top three cake eaters receive for salary and bonus in the past three years?
Read the fine print. We now own the company.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Sep 15 2008, 11:11 PM
I sure hope we see something to stem the tide tomorrow. We have to get the housing market out of the crapper.
I'd say we got it.
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