Health care after retirement
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I've used Social Security benefits with additional gap coverage using Kaiser Permanente's supplemental insurance. The cost...about $150/mo that covers wellness checks, urgent care, prescriptions, and hospitalization costs. We sometimes need to pay an acceptable charge for urgent care, prescriptions and hospitalization.
#12
I was fortunate that my employer provided retirement health care coverage when I left at age 60. These days that's all changed; in fact, next year we have to shop for a plan for the first time ever. I can't image not having some coverage. The wife recently had two tests done at the Univ of Mich and the bill was $7k; our cost less than two hundred.... but it was Medicare that paid it; our company coverage paid twenty dollars!!
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I was fortunate that my employer provided retirement health care coverage when I left at age 60. These days that's all changed; in fact, next year we have to shop for a plan for the first time ever. I can't image not having some coverage. The wife recently had two tests done at the Univ of Mich and the bill was $7k; our cost less than two hundred.... but it was Medicare that paid it; our company coverage paid twenty dollars!!
However, once he retires, he will be required by his company to have Medicare Part B. Then Medicare will be primary and his retiree health insurance will be secondary. Well...I guess you could say that he won't really be "required" to have Medicare Part B, but if he doesn't have Medicare, his retiree insurance would still only cover what they would cover if they were the secondary insurance. So, of course, it doesn't make any sense not to have Medicare Part B.
I think that is probably how most companies handle it. That once you retire, you are covered by Medicare as primary and the retiree insurance is secondary.
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Something to consider for major work (hips, knees, eyes, cardiac, etc) is spending 10% of the cost and have it done in Thailand. (Bangkok) I know it sounds goofy at first blush but I can tell you I have spoken with many, many people who have done just that. I fly them there myself!
Thailand is a first class destination for medical care. One of the best places in the world. Again, the cost is 10% of what it is in the States.
Thailand is a first class destination for medical care. One of the best places in the world. Again, the cost is 10% of what it is in the States.
"I don’t know personally of anyone who has done this, although I have also heard reports that the care is excellent and surgeons well trained. BUT, even if you were just going to the Cleveland Clinic or U. of M. at Ann Arbor for surgical care, I can tell you sleeping in your own home with your family and friends around you to help out is worth a lot. I have been at Cleveland and Ann Arbor for major surgeries on my wife and my brother in the past, and being in a ’strange’ city just adds one more level of stress to the whole situation. Especially if there are complications (there were each time) and your stay ends up being a week or more (it did). That said, American health care prices are certainly not as low as they should/could be in my (and most people’s) opinion. If I had to pay full cash price for my surgery (ie, no insurance) I suppose I might consider going overseas as well. Hopefully though I’ll live the rest of my days with the original parts intact and die peacefully in bed after making wild and crazy love to a beautiful 25 year old women. Or not…."
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Tricare is primary until age 65 after which it becomes Tricare For Life and secondary to Medicare. You must sign up for Medicare to retain Tricare secondary coverage. The change is transparent, Medicate bills Tricare.
Health insurance is mandated, of course (thank, you, Congress), but the deductible level isn't. Insurance is a form of gambling. You're betting the insurance company you're gonna have a lot or few claims and the bet (called a premium) is based on this. But even catastrophic conditions have capped out of pocket limits. Problem is most folks seem to have always had very low deductible plans and aren't used to out of pocket or co-pay costs. A pocket calculator and 15 minutes of premium vs risk analysis will let you choose the deductible level you need. If you're healthy who cares if there's high deductible, you're not gonna use it. The reverse applies.
-- Chuck
Health insurance is mandated, of course (thank, you, Congress), but the deductible level isn't. Insurance is a form of gambling. You're betting the insurance company you're gonna have a lot or few claims and the bet (called a premium) is based on this. But even catastrophic conditions have capped out of pocket limits. Problem is most folks seem to have always had very low deductible plans and aren't used to out of pocket or co-pay costs. A pocket calculator and 15 minutes of premium vs risk analysis will let you choose the deductible level you need. If you're healthy who cares if there's high deductible, you're not gonna use it. The reverse applies.
-- Chuck
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Cos, I found your post interesting and passed it on to a doctor friend who has done a lot of traveling around the world as well. I thought I share his reply.......
"I don’t know personally of anyone who has done this, although I have also heard reports that the care is excellent and surgeons well trained. BUT, even if you were just going to the Cleveland Clinic or U. of M. at Ann Arbor for surgical care, I can tell you sleeping in your own home with your family and friends around you to help out is worth a lot. I have been at Cleveland and Ann Arbor for major surgeries on my wife and my brother in the past, and being in a ’strange’ city just adds one more level of stress to the whole situation. Especially if there are complications (there were each time) and your stay ends up being a week or more (it did). That said, American health care prices are certainly not as low as they should/could be in my (and most people’s) opinion. If I had to pay full cash price for my surgery (ie, no insurance) I suppose I might consider going overseas as well. Hopefully though I’ll live the rest of my days with the original parts intact and die peacefully in bed after making wild and crazy love to a beautiful 25 year old women. Or not…."
"I don’t know personally of anyone who has done this, although I have also heard reports that the care is excellent and surgeons well trained. BUT, even if you were just going to the Cleveland Clinic or U. of M. at Ann Arbor for surgical care, I can tell you sleeping in your own home with your family and friends around you to help out is worth a lot. I have been at Cleveland and Ann Arbor for major surgeries on my wife and my brother in the past, and being in a ’strange’ city just adds one more level of stress to the whole situation. Especially if there are complications (there were each time) and your stay ends up being a week or more (it did). That said, American health care prices are certainly not as low as they should/could be in my (and most people’s) opinion. If I had to pay full cash price for my surgery (ie, no insurance) I suppose I might consider going overseas as well. Hopefully though I’ll live the rest of my days with the original parts intact and die peacefully in bed after making wild and crazy love to a beautiful 25 year old women. Or not…."
BTW, without my reading glasses on, my wife of 35 years looks just like the 25 year old gal I first met and got married to!