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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by valentine
Rob, I don't have a smart phone, so I probably shouldn't even be responding. However, my daughter has an i-phone that she dearly loves. She uses it for EVERYTHING and finds it invaluable. OTOH, my grandson has an Android and he wouldn't leave home without it. I'll be interested to read other discussion about this issue as I will be in the market for another phone when my contract with Verizon is up in March of next year. I'm not convinced I need a smart phone as I use a laptop for email and web-browsing, etc. We seldom travel anymore so I do not believe a smart-phone is worth the cost for us.
My wife is the same way.... she is using a 5+ year old Razr and still loves it (used to be my phone way back when).

You will be very disappointed when you go to a Verizon store or online and see the very limited selection of non-data plan phones available. I think the store had 2-4 phones that didn't require the data plan.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 01:52 AM
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I sure am happy that my phone is "Company" supported !!!! Till 2 days ago...I had the Storm.....I really liked this phone / media / whatever else !!! Well.. I finally broke the glass screen, after 3 years...It still worked...but, it was time for a new one...Our Company does not support the Apple products...Sooooo.....I chose the new Torch 9850....10 times better than my good 'ol Storm...Bigger screen, 5 mega pix auto focus cam...720P...HD, video...and the touch screen has too many improvements over the past models to mention...Still I am very intimidated by these electronic marvels...but just as my I-pad2...I can't seem to put this thing down !!!!

....and just by the way...the App to get around "Flash" on the I-Pad...is "Skyfire"
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by poorshoesless
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3. No card slot. I suppose if you get the iPhone with 64 gig you don't need it, but that option is $499. Besides I like being able to change the card.
Rob,

I believe the 64GB is $399.00, not $499.00. I could be wrong.

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Yes I think you are right. My mistake.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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Don't buy anything yet. It's rumored that the Samsung Nexus Prime is coming to Verizon on October 11. From what I've read this is going to be quite a phone.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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Rob - have you checked out the Thunderbolt? It's 4G - very fast.
Deb,

I have looked at it and it's quite a nice phone. The only problem with it is the battery life.
Yeah, that's the tradeoff for speed. The +1 isn't using it for streaming video, though, which is the biggest juice hog. It works well for him.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Looter
...but just as my I-pad2...I can't seem to put this thing down !!!!

....and just by the way...the App to get around "Flash" on the I-Pad...is "Skyfire"
Since I got mine I feel the same way.

Thanks for the app name.
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ralper
I've thought long and hard about the iPhone. Everyone who has one seems to love it and the retention rate (that is people with iPhones upgrading to another iPhone) is very high, some where around 85% whereas the rate for those with Android phones is about 47%. Still everyone I speak to who has an Android phone loves it too.
Rob,

That's an interesting statistic, but I'd be curious about the background behind it.

For one, Apple has a single product (iPhone) on the iOS software (in terms of phones) so if you had an iPhone and buy another iPhone, that's obviously customer retention.

However, Android has 3-4 separate companies (Moto, HTC, Samsung, ???) making phones, so if I go from a Moto to a Samsung, is that considered a retained customer? Or not? I've stayed with Android, but strayed from a given company. I'm not sure how that's reflected in your numbers.

Additionally, the first mainstream Android phone (the Droid) came out in November of 2009. And since most people sign up for a 2 year contract, the vast majority of people have only just gotten the opportunity (or haven't gotten it yet) to get their second phone since Android became mainstream. I've gotta think this skews the numbers quite a bit in some way.


All of which is a long winded way of saying not to put too much stock in it.


Personally, I have both a Droid and a 2G iPad, and I like them both. There are advantages to each. On the Droid, it's infinitely more customizable (including "hacking" the phone, which I haven't done) and there are tons of options. Also, like you, I have issues with the Apple's integrated battery; I use an extended battery on my Droid and carry a spare when traveling. Android is less of a polished experience than iOS, I admit; my phone hangs occasionally, or needs to be restarted, or whatever. I think I've cold restarted my iPad 2-3 times since I bought it in early August. The Droid usually gets a full power down 2-3x per month to keep it happy (hint: they don't like a full browser cache; clear it early and often.)

The iPad (near as makes no difference the same as the iPhone) is a much slicker device, but it's also a little like playing in the kiddy pool as there are lots of "rules." With the Droid, I can move anythign on or off the phone using it as a simple flash drive (either inserting the SD card into a reader, or mounting the phone with a USB cord.) With the iPad, you can't move anything on or off except through iTunes, which is a pain. I bought the accessory card reader ($29) thinking I could transfer photos and music and such onto the iPad with it; can't do it. Same with .pdfs; you can email them or download them, but other than that, not possible to transfer them with a card or flash drive (I deal with a lot of pdfs for school and work; the iPad makes a great .pdf reader.) So if you want to stay within the "rules," iOS makes a very slick, user-friendly ecosystem. However, as soon as you want to break a rule (and as someone who doesn't do a lot of customizing stuff, I am surprised at how often I want to break one), iOS is much more oppressive.


BTW,
-Not sure when Dinara is coming; rumored 11/11, but Bionic was delayed ~4 months, I'm sure this will affect Dinara
-Dinara is rumored to not have a user-replaceable battery
-I bought a 2011 TSX Saturday, I see you've got a 2009. Great car, nice commuter to go with the S2000.

Cheers!
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Chris,

My wife drives the TSX and loves it. It's become the family car as well so I've put quite a few miles on it. It's a very nice car. You'll enjoy it.

I don't know an awful lot about what's behind the statistic except that I think they meant all Android phones regardless of the manufacturer. If I find the quote I'll post a link to it.
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Old Oct 9, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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I think I'm going to wait for the Samsung Nexus Prime. It was supposed to be introduced on Oct 11 for distribution in November but because of Steve Jobs' death the introduction was postponed. It is now going to be introduced at the end of October and made available in November. Read this:

http://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...4s-couldnt.htm
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:25 AM
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I currently have the Droid X and like it, but decided to get the new iPhone 4S.

I think I will like the smaller screen size (I have the iPad 2 and would use that if I need a larger screen), and I can use the same apps that I have for my iPad and iPod touch.

The main reason for switching from Droid X is that on several occasions, the display froze on me, and I had to remove it from its case and remove the battery to reset the phone. I called Verizon tech services several times and they had me update the software but that did not seem to diminish the frozen displays.
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