Let's Go Racin'!
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 22,863
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by dlq04,Jul 27 2004, 10:19 PM
Why does a guy have to die before people will respect his accomplishments? That statement is not ment as a flame. He has been in the front row for 50% of the F1 races he's entered and he has like 83 wins! The great Jackie Stewart only entered 79 races, if I recall correctly. MS sets records every race he enters because he still has the desire to win at all costs even when he's been on top as long as he has. I suspect some people felt the same way about Babe Ruth. I have followed F1 from the days of Phil Hill up to the current and Schummy is truly something special. Unlike so many who wish his downfall, I enjoy watching real history in the making.
, I think we are witnessing something very special happening at Ferrari and with MS. He is probably the most talented driver ever and the Ferrari is just unbelievable. The German GP marked the 50th! race since Ferrari has had a technical failure...show me any car, in any racing league that can match that record....that is truly amazing!
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 22,863
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by dlq04,Jul 28 2004, 06:54 AM
Bob, well said. No question, winning in motor sports is a team effort and at the highest level's - always has been (ie, Clark & Chapman, Stewart & Terrell, Senna & Honda, etc.). Both must be at the top of their game to get a streak of wins. Schummy is none the less a brilliant driver. In addition to his car handling skills he is so track smart it's unreal. He knows when to be patient, when to save the car, when to be aggressive, and when to drive all out. It's always amazing to me how much he was aware of during the race when they have the post race interviews. I know he gets reports from the pits but still he is something else.
again!Remember the French GP, when MS pitted 4 times and still won? What amazed me was that MS was told he needed about a second a lap to make it work...he went out and did it. He was basically churning out qualifying after qualifying lap....
What I truly like the most about MS, is that he ALWAYS give credit back to his TEAM. The guy is top notch all around imo.
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,674
Likes: 10
From: Myrtle Beach, SC
Dave/Matt,
I'm not taking anything away from the guy. I'm sure he's very talented and a great driver. I just have a problem with any sport that is supposed to be competitive dominated to the tune of 11 wins in 12 races (I think those stats are correct). How much fun can that be for the fans? It's the same as when Jeff Gordon rattled off 14 wins (I think) in NASCAR a few years ago and people were up in arms over the competitive imbalance. Even though it was the result of hard work and talent. It's the "Yankees syndrome" all over again. Everybody hates the Yankees. Right Poks2k?
I'm not taking anything away from the guy. I'm sure he's very talented and a great driver. I just have a problem with any sport that is supposed to be competitive dominated to the tune of 11 wins in 12 races (I think those stats are correct). How much fun can that be for the fans? It's the same as when Jeff Gordon rattled off 14 wins (I think) in NASCAR a few years ago and people were up in arms over the competitive imbalance. Even though it was the result of hard work and talent. It's the "Yankees syndrome" all over again. Everybody hates the Yankees. Right Poks2k?
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 943
Likes: 8
From: Livermore, CA
Well it is STILL fun for this fan. I have followed several diverse forms of motorsport for over 40 years and there have been other periods of domination. Richard Petty in the mid-60's comes immediately to mind. It never dislodged my interest, I was curious how and why it was happening. True, I prefer competitive racing where the result is unpredictable. But the current form of perfection in F1 still fascinates me. It has happened before (Clark in 1963) but never so profoundly. Just as we look back in awe now at the accomplishments of Clark or Petty or even people like A.J. Foyt or the Penske steamroller of 1994 we wonder and amaze and analyze. And get up at the crack of dawn every two weeks to see if and how he will do it again. Trouble is, these days there are no driver/team combinations to touch Schumacher/Ferrari. Maybe later this year, maybe next but now, not a one. I guess if I wanted contrived unpredictability i would tune in to professional wrestling.
Hey by the way I got my tickets today for the Monterey Historics, As it is featuring Ferrari this year, besides the mouth-watering array of historic racing and delightful road cars the factory is sending an example of this year's F2004 according to the event website. These are the things that make the traffic, insane real estate values and high gas prices worth living in the Golden State.
Hey by the way I got my tickets today for the Monterey Historics, As it is featuring Ferrari this year, besides the mouth-watering array of historic racing and delightful road cars the factory is sending an example of this year's F2004 according to the event website. These are the things that make the traffic, insane real estate values and high gas prices worth living in the Golden State.
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,530
Likes: 17
From: Gleening the apex
RealTime Racing drivers Pierre Kleinubing and Matt Plumb raced their A-SPEC equipped Acura TSX cars to a 1-2 finish in Sunday's SCCA Pro Racing SPEED Touring Car Championship race at Portland International Raceway.
The win was the second for the new Acura TSX in its debut season, and RealTime
The win was the second for the new Acura TSX in its debut season, and RealTime
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,530
Likes: 17
From: Gleening the apex
Bobby Rahal to return to his roots???????
From Speed channel~
Bobby Rahal may be best known for his exploits as a driver and team owner in Champ Cars and IndyCars, but Rahal also drove a number of sports cars during his racing career. Now, the reigning Indy 500-winning team owner is looking to expand his team
From Speed channel~
Bobby Rahal may be best known for his exploits as a driver and team owner in Champ Cars and IndyCars, but Rahal also drove a number of sports cars during his racing career. Now, the reigning Indy 500-winning team owner is looking to expand his team
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 46,003
Likes: 8,484
From: Mish-she-gan
Originally Posted by Bob Moss,Jul 28 2004, 11:47 PM
Well it is STILL fun for this fan. I have followed several diverse forms of motorsport for over 40 years and there have been other periods of domination. Richard Petty in the mid-60's comes immediately to mind. It never dislodged my interest, I was curious how and why it was happening. True, I prefer competitive racing where the result is unpredictable. But the current form of perfection in F1 still fascinates me. It has happened before (Clark in 1963) but never so profoundly. Just as we look back in awe now at the accomplishments of Clark or Petty or even people like A.J. Foyt or the Penske steamroller of 1994 we wonder and amaze and analyze. And get up at the crack of dawn every two weeks to see if and how he will do it again. Trouble is, these days there are no driver/team combinations to touch Schumacher/Ferrari. Maybe later this year, maybe next but now, not a one. I guess if I wanted contrived unpredictability i would tune in to professional wrestling.
Hey by the way I got my tickets today for the Monterey Historics, As it is featuring Ferrari this year, besides the mouth-watering array of historic racing and delightful road cars the factory is sending an example of this year's F2004 according to the event website. These are the things that make the traffic, insane real estate values and high gas prices worth living in the Golden State.
Hey by the way I got my tickets today for the Monterey Historics, As it is featuring Ferrari this year, besides the mouth-watering array of historic racing and delightful road cars the factory is sending an example of this year's F2004 according to the event website. These are the things that make the traffic, insane real estate values and high gas prices worth living in the Golden State.
It never bothered me when the Red Wings were unstopable. I would love to see those races live but alas I still have the Speed tapes. Enjoy.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PLYRS 3
Southern Ontario S2000 Owners
14
Jul 10, 2003 07:08 PM
PLYRS 3
Southern Ontario S2000 Owners
30
Mar 25, 2003 07:20 AM