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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kgf3076
Originally Posted by dlq04' timestamp='1359866260' post='22310865
Good question. I have a buddy from work who's a geek's geek. He had a top end digital camera nearly 15 years ago when they were big $$. He's a Mac guy personally while through out his career he supported windows to hundreds of users in the back-room with all whatever stuff geeks do back there - servers and like. He said he does not have any on his. It is true that there have been viruses on Mac's in the past...... some done by super-geeks who love Macs but just wanted to prove it could be done. I downloaded a free one called ClamXav, and can't say that it ever found anything but that's ok too. I think there may be one or two free ones that are now rated higher. I have other tech'y friends who say you only get what you pay for and don't trust free programs. More than anything else, I think constant back-up is best.
Sorry, Dave. He's not a geek, he's an idiot. I've been in this business since 1965. Anti-Virus/Anti-malware protection is a small price to pay to NOT get hit by something you don't want. I hope you friend has good backups (and I don't mean Time Machine backups either) because the day is going to come. The only 100% sure way to never get hit is to unplug the machine from the internet and power.
I am sure heck no expert (like you) but I have to say there is a lot of people who support his thinking. I've disable Java, use the built-in firewall, and as mentioned install ClamXav. I am not trying to pinch pennies. Every time these discussions come up, I re-evalutate. But generally walk away just as confused. I certainly agree the only true safe Mac/PC is one that is unplugged. I get frustrated when the discussions get into the finer details . . such as, oh, sure you can get a Trojan but not a virus. I read links like these that tell me I good with what I've done.

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...antivirus+os+x

http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost...48&postcount=4

Maybe for piece of mind I will try Eset. When I went to the Mac store I see a post, dtd this Dec, saying they had known malware on their laptop and it could not detect it.

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Thanks for all the replies!

I will look into Eset. I did try Sophos, since it was free, but some Internet articles said it was not good and itself might lead to virus attacks, so I got rid of it.

I am not necessarily trying to get free software, since I've spent a pretty penny on this Mac stuff and would not want it to be attacked by viruses or malware.
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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 12:43 AM
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Okay, so yeah, I'm reviving an old thread by doing this, but I just wanted to say...

even Macs at Apple itself in Cupertino can be hit by malware.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415583,00.asp (yeah, skip the ad that pcmag forces you to look at)

Headline: Apple Also Targeted by Hackers, Company Reveals
Story: The list of high-profile tech companies victimized by hackers is growing.
Just days after Facebook revealed that its systems were "targeted in a sophisticated attack," Apple has now made the rare admission that it too was the victim of hackers. The Cupertino tech giant's computers were attacked by the same online miscreants who targeted Facebook. No data appears to have been stolen in the Apple hack.
"Apple has identified malware which infected a limited number of Mac systems through a vulnerability in the Java plug-in for browsers," Apple said in a statement to PCMag.com. "The malware was employed in an attack against Apple and other companies, and was spread through a website for software developers."

(See link above for more)

See... even uber geeks need to run antimalware apps and be extra careful, especially if they think their macs are impervious by virtue of being macs.

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Old Feb 20, 2013 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RMurphy
Okay, so yeah, I'm reviving an old thread by doing this, but I just wanted to say...

even Macs at Apple itself in Cupertino can be hit by malware.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2415583,00.asp (yeah, skip the ad that pcmag forces you to look at)

Headline: Apple Also Targeted by Hackers, Company Reveals
Story: The list of high-profile tech companies victimized by hackers is growing.
Just days after Facebook revealed that its systems were "targeted in a sophisticated attack," Apple has now made the rare admission that it too was the victim of hackers. The Cupertino tech giant's computers were attacked by the same online miscreants who targeted Facebook. No data appears to have been stolen in the Apple hack.
"Apple has identified malware which infected a limited number of Mac systems through a vulnerability in the Java plug-in for browsers," Apple said in a statement to PCMag.com. "The malware was employed in an attack against Apple and other companies, and was spread through a website for software developers."

(See link above for more)

See... even uber geeks need to run antimalware apps and be extra careful, especially if they think their macs are impervious by virtue of being macs.

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But not by just any hacker - according to news reports it was done by the Chinese military. But, your point that it can be done is fact.

BTW, Mr Blue what did you Do?
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kgf3076
Originally Posted by goblueS2K' timestamp='1359851198' post='22310622
I've owned and used PC computers for years and except for one Trojan virus, have never had any problems. I've used mostly Norton or free AVG or Avira antivirus software on my PCs to protect them.

About 6 months ago, I bought a new retina MacBook pro laptop and really liked it. I did not purchase antivirus software for it. For Christmas, I got a new Mac mini desktop computer I am delighted with both of the Apple computers and with the phone support and/or Genius bar support at my local Apple store.

I wonder though, should I be using an antivirus programs for the Mac computers? I've looked and there are not many available. Either they are not needed or Mac owners are foolishly exposing their Mac computers to unnecessary risk by not buying and installing antivirus/malware software.

What's your opinion?
There are Mac viruses and malware. You wouldn't drive a car without insurance, why wander down Internet back alleys with no protection? Eset makes a good antivirus/anilmalware program, Norton has one, McAfee has one. There are also some freebies. Get one, update it regularly (I do mine every day automatically). A small price to pay for peace of mind. Avast is free and good, I use Eset Cybersecurity Pro but you may want to use something else. Your call.
Here you go:
https://www.google.c...56&pf=p&pdl=300
Well, I dove in with both feet and signed up for two years with ESET Cyber Security Pro. Thanks for the push. $95. And passed the 1st scan.
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