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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Sep 20 2005, 11:17 PM
Cars are art! Sadly, some art is bad.
That would be an interesting thread. "Which cars are works of art".
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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[QUOTE=ralper,Sep 20 2005, 11:46 PM] That would be an interesting thread.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Back in the day, you don't think the coachbuilders considered themselves technologists, do you? I'm sure they considered their work art.

You guys ever watch Chip Foose work on "Overhaulin'?"
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Sep 20 2005, 11:17 PM
Cars are art! Sadly, some art is bad.
Fortunately for me. One of the most beautiful examples of cars as art that I have ever seen was at the benefit Concours de' Elegance at the NewPorter resort in New Port Beach back in 1984. It was a 1936 Bugatti Coupe. It had etched windows an cut glass stained glass tail lights.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by matt_inva,Sep 20 2005, 11:49 PM
The orginal 1963 (or was it 1964?) Avanti (which won an International design award)
It's interesting that it won a design award, because I don't think the Avanti aged well. Today it looks dated.

The Ferrari GTO and the Ford GT-40 might be considered works of art, and they look as good today as when they were new.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ralper,Sep 20 2005, 11:08 PM
It's interesting that it won a design award, because I don't think the Avanti aged well. Today it looks dated.
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This speaks directly to this thread! The technology of the day was viewed as an art form.....but it almost always looks dated 20 or 40 years later!

I always think about this when touring a classic car show.....how the 1957 Plymouth ['the Sweptwing Forward Look'] now looks overweight and ungainly

Yes, a great thread Matt ....but I am (again) getting a little worried about all of this inspiration from NPR
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by paS2K,Sep 21 2005, 12:14 AM
This speaks directly to this thread! The technology of the day was viewed as an art form.....but it almost always looks dated 20 or 40 years later!
I'm not sure if I agree. Some technology looks dated, not all. Again, look at the Ferarri GTO or the Ford GT-40. They look as good today as they did in the 1960s. Perhaps styling for the sake of styling, as in the Avanti doesn't age well, but styling where form follows function does.

What do you think of streamlining as in the old Airstream housetrailers or the New York Central locomotives. Dated or fresh? Technology as art? Art as technology? What do you think?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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To me, my mountain bike frame (below) is art too... The way this frame is welded, and the fact that it's so light, really speak to me. I guess I'm kind of a nut for Titanium.

Several months ago, I took the family to the Boston Museum of Fine Arts to see Ralph Lauren's cars. Most of that collection qualifies as art to me!


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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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So if pointilism is art, does that mean that fractals are art as well?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by paS2K,Sep 21 2005, 12:14 AM
Yes, a great thread Matt ....but I am (again) getting a little worried about all of this inspiration from NPR
Thanks Jerry,

Why? Is National Public Radio a little too non-bias (as they lean slighly left) for you?
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