A teddy bear named Muhammud
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Nov 29 2007, 04:56 PM
I said it leads to that place. And it does. Lots of examples in history (US and otherwise) show that just a little compromise on the separation of church and state is the same as being just a little pregnant.
The problem in this case was not that the Islamic religion is too intolerant. As was pointed out above, it's quite plausible that some US Christians would have reacted in the same way. And Western Muslims were calling for the charges to be dropped.
The problem is that the religious laws have become the state laws in Sudan, and that the teacher has litlle legal defense against accusation of violation of religious laws. That's what the Bill Of Rights is supposed to protect us against here.
The problem in this case was not that the Islamic religion is too intolerant. As was pointed out above, it's quite plausible that some US Christians would have reacted in the same way. And Western Muslims were calling for the charges to be dropped.
The problem is that the religious laws have become the state laws in Sudan, and that the teacher has litlle legal defense against accusation of violation of religious laws. That's what the Bill Of Rights is supposed to protect us against here.
At any rate, I am not aware of anyone in the US pushing for a certain type of prayer or requirement TO pray in schools; I was only aware of a movement for the opportunity to pray, and I thought you were comparing that with the beating of a woman for sacrilige.
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack,Nov 29 2007, 02:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most people who are in favor of "prayer in schools" want there to be a required TIME for prayer, not a required PRAYER?
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Originally Posted by Chris Stack,Nov 29 2007, 02:07 PM
At any rate, I am not aware of anyone in the US pushing for a certain type of prayer or requirement TO pray in schools; I was only aware of a movement for the opportunity to pray, and I thought you were comparing that with the beating of a woman for sacrilige.
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I am a little confused by this case. According to everything I've heard, (this one from the AP) "A British teacher in Sudan was convicted Thursday of the less-serious charge of insulting Islam [B]for letting her pupils name a teddy bear
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Originally Posted by WhiteS2k,Nov 29 2007, 02:46 PM
I am a little confused by this case. According to everything I've heard, (this one from the AP) "A British teacher in Sudan was convicted Thursday of the less-serious charge of insulting Islam for letting her pupils name a teddy bear “Muhammad,” ..." I agree that she is probably not the brightest teacher in the world, but it was her students who gave the teddy bear the name -- and my guess is that the students are local and are Muslim. So why aren't the students in trouble? 
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Originally Posted by dlq04,Nov 29 2007, 04:33 PM
The real question is what happened to the teddy bear? Does this mean he has to deal with life without a name? He can never get a passport? This isn't good.
, with you Dave! You can't -- go deifying a Teddy and then just drop him nameless into some ordinary toy box to be forgotten! 
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Originally Posted by S1997,Nov 29 2007, 04:43 PM
, with you Dave! You can't -- go deifying a Teddy and then just drop him nameless into some ordinary toy box to be forgotten! 
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Nov 29 2007, 08:49 PM
That reminds me, I need to go worship my stuffed Cthulhu. You don't want to see what he's like when I forget!