Tiger
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DUI in our region is taken quite seriously. One reason why my drunk brother-in-law has not driven in 30+ years. I haven't checked the laws lately, but I am pretty sure on the first offence you lose your license for one year, you get a huge fine, and your insurance company just crushes you when you need to re-insure. If you are dumb enough to have a second or third offense you are not legally allowed to drive for a very long time, and most people could never afford the insurance cost either. My brother-in-law has relied on family members to give him rides to family events for the last 30+ years, and he is in his early 60's now, he will never be able to drive. He is still a drunk though, sadly.
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He blew a 0.0 on a breathalizer. But he did refuse to take a urin test, which is his right. He clearly is overmedicatede. But given his injury history, he porobably does suffer a lot of pain. And given an overly compliant star struck doc, the result isn't surprising.
Consider that retired NFL players misuse pain medication at nearly three times the rate of the general population, with many suffering from long-term opioid addiction, severe pain, and depression.
I'm not saying Woods is a great role model but tha's a job he never signed up for. And compared to our local hero, Bret Favre, Woods is a saint. Point is, maybe we should offer sympathy rather than judgement.
Consider that retired NFL players misuse pain medication at nearly three times the rate of the general population, with many suffering from long-term opioid addiction, severe pain, and depression.
I'm not saying Woods is a great role model but tha's a job he never signed up for. And compared to our local hero, Bret Favre, Woods is a saint. Point is, maybe we should offer sympathy rather than judgement.
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You can face penalties for refusing a breath/uring/blood test and that is what Tiger did. You cannot prove he was under anything because there is no proof he was under anything. Zero alcohol and no chemical test for anything. All they can get him for is a refusal to submit to a chemical urine test.
Anyone can refuse to take or submit to what is known as a field sobriety test. You are under no legal obligation to perform it. None. A civilian is under a lot stress being pulled over as it is. Remember, the police are there to gather evidence for a conviction of the law. They are, in a suspected DUI pullover, not your friends. The answer to give when instructions are being given for that is: "Under the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to take this." That also goes for statements. You must provide identification and insurance, you must follow instructions about getting out of the car and such, but any other question, any question, can be, and legally should be, politely and respectfully declined in the same way. Never say " I only had one beverage". Any admission changes things significantly in the field and at trial. 90% of convictions come from statements people make, according to my dad who was the assistant DA in San Diego. I found that out as well attending the Navy's legal school for a position in my squadron as legal officer.
Of course, the issues for driving under the influence is severe and I avoid the problem to begin with. Even one beverage, driving at night, especially in rain, gives me hives. I need to be as sharp as I can be. Another factor is the prohibition for carrying a weapon concealed upon your person. Consuming alcohol, in many places, is prohibited so if you want to carry, you know you may not drink anything from the moment you arm up and leave home.
Anyone can refuse to take or submit to what is known as a field sobriety test. You are under no legal obligation to perform it. None. A civilian is under a lot stress being pulled over as it is. Remember, the police are there to gather evidence for a conviction of the law. They are, in a suspected DUI pullover, not your friends. The answer to give when instructions are being given for that is: "Under the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to take this." That also goes for statements. You must provide identification and insurance, you must follow instructions about getting out of the car and such, but any other question, any question, can be, and legally should be, politely and respectfully declined in the same way. Never say " I only had one beverage". Any admission changes things significantly in the field and at trial. 90% of convictions come from statements people make, according to my dad who was the assistant DA in San Diego. I found that out as well attending the Navy's legal school for a position in my squadron as legal officer.
Of course, the issues for driving under the influence is severe and I avoid the problem to begin with. Even one beverage, driving at night, especially in rain, gives me hives. I need to be as sharp as I can be. Another factor is the prohibition for carrying a weapon concealed upon your person. Consuming alcohol, in many places, is prohibited so if you want to carry, you know you may not drink anything from the moment you arm up and leave home.
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You can face penalties for refusing a breath/uring/blood test and that is what Tiger did. You cannot prove he was under anything because there is no proof he was under anything. Zero alcohol and no chemical test for anything. All they can get him for is a refusal to submit to a chemical urine test.
Anyone can refuse to take or submit to what is known as a field sobriety test. You are under no legal obligation to perform it. None. A civilian is under a lot stress being pulled over as it is. Remember, the police are there to gather evidence for a conviction of the law. They are, in a suspected DUI pullover, not your friends. The answer to give when instructions are being given for that is: "Under the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to take this." That also goes for statements. You must provide identification and insurance, you must follow instructions about getting out of the car and such, but any other question, any question, can be, and legally should be, politely and respectfully declined in the same way. Never say " I only had one beverage". Any admission changes things significantly in the field and at trial. 90% of convictions come from statements people make, according to my dad who was the assistant DA in San Diego. I found that out as well attending the Navy's legal school for a position in my squadron as legal officer.
Of course, the issues for driving under the influence is severe and I avoid the problem to begin with. Even one beverage, driving at night, especially in rain, gives me hives. I need to be as sharp as I can be. Another factor is the prohibition for carrying a weapon concealed upon your person. Consuming alcohol, in many places, is prohibited so if you want to carry, you know you may not drink anything from the moment you arm up and leave home.
Anyone can refuse to take or submit to what is known as a field sobriety test. You are under no legal obligation to perform it. None. A civilian is under a lot stress being pulled over as it is. Remember, the police are there to gather evidence for a conviction of the law. They are, in a suspected DUI pullover, not your friends. The answer to give when instructions are being given for that is: "Under the advice of my counsel, I respectfully decline to take this." That also goes for statements. You must provide identification and insurance, you must follow instructions about getting out of the car and such, but any other question, any question, can be, and legally should be, politely and respectfully declined in the same way. Never say " I only had one beverage". Any admission changes things significantly in the field and at trial. 90% of convictions come from statements people make, according to my dad who was the assistant DA in San Diego. I found that out as well attending the Navy's legal school for a position in my squadron as legal officer.
Of course, the issues for driving under the influence is severe and I avoid the problem to begin with. Even one beverage, driving at night, especially in rain, gives me hives. I need to be as sharp as I can be. Another factor is the prohibition for carrying a weapon concealed upon your person. Consuming alcohol, in many places, is prohibited so if you want to carry, you know you may not drink anything from the moment you arm up and leave home.
Yep the advice I have heard from multiple attorneys in the past has been that if you get pulled over and have been drinking at all, first you dont tell them you have been drinking. Second, you refuse the field sobriety test and say you want to contact your attorney immediately. They WILL arrest you for not doing the breath test but the idea is to delay as much as possible before they get you to the police department and do a blood test. This gives you the best chance of passing obviously since more time has passed. The point I heard made that really made sense was that someone who drinks regularly may 100% think they are under the limit and not be. So you can barely be over and feel fine and end up with a DUI.
Now.. something I learned from an attorney that I did not know earlier in life... if the legal limit is .08 and you cause an accident, a BAC of .04 counts as an aggravating factor in the accident. So if you have had 1 drink in the past hour, you run a chance of getting much harsher charges should you cause an accident. So dont think you are safe just because you think you are below a .08!
I personally have never gotten a DUI but they can really screw things up for a person!
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The courts take away license all the time yet the people keep driving. I went to a driving school for a speeding ticket and the majority of the people there were there to reinstate their license after it was pulled by the courts and the majority of them DROVE THERE!.