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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Here are the main machines used to detail and the order in which they rank their ability to remove defects.

True Random Orbital (RO)
1.Store bough 9 or 10 inch buffer - useless
2.Porter Cable - mostly light duty polishes and upkeep
3.UDM - 20% more power than the PC althoughs feel like more.
4.Cyclo - More powerful than the UDM. Works well with medium and light duty polishes.

True Dual Action
5.FLEX 3401 VRG - combination rotary and RO - more powerful than any RO.

Pure rotary
6.Rotary - Dewalt, Hitachi, Metabo - Can use with heavy polishes, foam, or wool with 6-10 inch pads. These have the ability to correct the biggest defects but run the biggest risks for damaging paint.
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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I made the switch from the PC to the Flex, and the money spent is well worth it.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by animeS2K,Jun 20 2008, 12:31 AM
but with the caveat that you're also probably removing a lot more clear with a rotary than you ever will with the PC - even used properly. If you're maintaining a black S2000, that paint is SOFT and shouldn't need a rotary for regular polishing.
Not true at all--a PC will remove just as much if not more clearcoat than a rotary. Take a look at this thread:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing...-shock-you.html
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GT_NFR,Jun 19 2008, 09:49 PM
I would just get a PC and This if it came down to it. I just traded my Dewalt rotary for a PC because I wasn't using it on the S. I was constantly worried about paint burn so I was always scared to stay in one spot for too long. However, if I ever encounter anything more difficult to remove I would just get the rotay from northern tool...its got the same specs as the dewalt but at 1/3 of the price.
One of the key things about the rotary is to learn not to stay in one spot at all. Keep the pad moving at all times. Also, tape off or avoid edges and trim pieces as you can burn them fairly easily.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by diabolus2k,Jun 23 2008, 12:51 PM
Not true at all--a PC will remove just as much if not more clearcoat than a rotary. Take a look at this thread:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing...-shock-you.html
There are some caveats to those findings, as I read it:
  1. They are talking about deep scratches and heavy paint correction.
  2. They are talking "extremely skilled" rotary users - those that can polish accurately and do the final finishing with the rotary and not require any follow-up (holograms, etc).
  3. Other serious issues are likely to present themselves with an inexperienced rotary/wetsanding user.

1 and 2 deal with paint thickness. 3 is just serious enough to be concerned about with a car that costs $30,000 and would require expensive paint work to correct an "oops"
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