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Old 04-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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Ive recently seen a couple posts which referenced the KBM. My searches pulled up little about the exact process. I did read a couple posts that said this method works great with the PC which is great seeing that I have a PC and an s2k that needs a spring detailing! Any info appreciated.
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KB method, as much as I've read on it, basically means priming the pad fully. You put several lines of product on the pad and rub the product into the pad with your hand or a microfiber towel. Then you add a small bead of product and begin working on the paint.

When the product starts to flash and dry on the paint, mist it with QD or distilled water and keep working the product until you achieve the desired results.

The reason you can keep working the same product without adding more is due to the non diminishing abrasives in M105 and M205. Once your pad is primed you can usually go an entire panel before having to change pads, then the process starts again.

Remember not to saturate the pad with product, just make sure there's an fine layer of product over the entire pad. The pad doesn't need to be dripping with product.

I tried this method with M105 and M205 on my two Hondas and it does work. I think M105 is a bit aggressive for paint as soft as Honda factory clear, but you can always use less pressure if you want to lessen the cut. IMHO, if I wanted to remove heavy swirls on Honda OEM paint I would get Meg's Ultimate Compound, its a new product that is available over the counter. It is cheap, uses the same non diminishing abrasives as M105, but has a longer working time and a little less cut. Should be a good start to heavy defect removal on soft Honda clear with a PC. With a cutting pad and some extra pressure M205 gives a LOT of cut for a finishing polish, you might not need M105 depending on your paint condition.

Not that it matters but you'll get the same amount of dust with M105 as you would from Menzerna IP. I found the M105 harder to remove from the surface of the paint once polishing was complete. I also noticed that if you removed the dry polish residue without using enough QD you would mar the paint, it was easily correctable but I was surprised at how abrasive the dust from M105 was (never had that problem with other polishes). So watch out for that.

Here are two threads that go into a bit more detail on the process.
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thanks a lot for the reply. I wonder if you can use this "method" with other products than just m105/205. i currently have edge 2000 pads and menzerna products (sip/106fa)

Guess i need to do more research- thanks for the links i will check them now
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No, you can't. Menzerna polishes, along with almost all other polishes are diminishing abrasives. meaning they have to be brought through their RPM range in order to break down properly. M105/205 do NOT have diminishing abrasives, so they work just as good at 1200rpm as they do at 2200rpm, which is the backbone of the KBM, working it slowly at 1200ish rpm.
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i did read something last weak about a menzerna product to be released soon (i think called 206dd) which was a non diminishing product.
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Then things may change.. .

But as of now, only m105/205.

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I remember hearing the same thing too. Supposed to be a super polish.. like m205. AMAZING cut with the right pad, and finish down LSP ready with the right pad.
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Above, 90crvtec stated changing the pad after the first panel.

I have yet to polish my car with my PC, but will one orange pad not be sufficient for the entire S2000? Do I really need to change pads for every body panel I do?
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