Klasse all in one
Anyone using the Klasse combo (all in one and sealant glaze), after reading some threads on autopia about this stuff, it appears it provides the same great results of zaino at a lower price. Any of you guys using Klasse, tell me about the product.
I would also like to see some comparisons from those of you who have used both Zaino and Klasse!
I would also like to see some comparisons from those of you who have used both Zaino and Klasse!
i know that we have a few klasse guys...
animes2k is one as i recall. hopefully he will post up
also autopia- he was one of the first to top klasse with carnuba
and this is a detailer's classic:
http://www.guidetodetailing.com/arti...p?articleId=28
animes2k is one as i recall. hopefully he will post up
also autopia- he was one of the first to top klasse with carnuba
and this is a detailer's classic:
http://www.guidetodetailing.com/arti...p?articleId=28
AIO is very good for everything you could think of using it on.
it even cleared up my head lights to crystal clear and my rear window got much better and longer results then plexus and made the black trim around the soft top look better than new. sorry about the run on sentence i got excited. lol.
IMPORTANT!, now about the sealant glaze. dont use too much and dont use a Porter Cable to apply this. Use a damp Micro Fiber cloth and use about 2ml (nickle size squirt) for 6sq/f (yeah 6sq/f!) and buff off with a clean MF cloth after 2-4 hours or so (longer you wait the eaier it'll be to take off). If you apply too much you'll have a fun day redoing that portion or buffing till your hand falls off your body. DONT DO THIS UNDER THE SUN!
it even cleared up my head lights to crystal clear and my rear window got much better and longer results then plexus and made the black trim around the soft top look better than new. sorry about the run on sentence i got excited. lol.
IMPORTANT!, now about the sealant glaze. dont use too much and dont use a Porter Cable to apply this. Use a damp Micro Fiber cloth and use about 2ml (nickle size squirt) for 6sq/f (yeah 6sq/f!) and buff off with a clean MF cloth after 2-4 hours or so (longer you wait the eaier it'll be to take off). If you apply too much you'll have a fun day redoing that portion or buffing till your hand falls off your body. DONT DO THIS UNDER THE SUN!
Anyone have any direct comparisons to Zaino. I have been using Zaino now for about 6 years, and I have no complaints about the results I get, but it does start getting expensive.
Just want to compare the shine, depth and durability of the two.
Just want to compare the shine, depth and durability of the two.
I absolutely love Klasse AIO for its chemical cleaning capabilities and as a base for just about anything else, but especially for carnaubas. I think wanabe meant to say "David" at autopia was one of the first to top with a carnauba (certainly wasn't my invention!).
As far as looks compared to Zaino? It has a much more silvery shine than Zaino, but when used as a combo (AIO + SG, multiple coats) its durability rivals that of Zaino. If you're just getting into it, I might actually try the "Werkstatt Twins" - apparently an updated version of AIO and SG that probably more gives Zaino a good solid run for its money. People are loving it in terms of ease of use and overall looks, but I haven't tried it yet. I've got too much AIO and I love it too much
However, I have pretty much gotten rid of most of my SG, because application/removal can be a bit of a PITA. It's a decent combon on white and light silvers because of its reflectivity. Those colors are about impossible to impart "depth" to, so a sealant is my regular choice.
If you're not happy with the cost of Zaino, the process of mixing, etc. I'd suggest the products from Werkstatt as an alternative - Prime and Acrylic Jett (which is also made in a spray formula).
As far as looks compared to Zaino? It has a much more silvery shine than Zaino, but when used as a combo (AIO + SG, multiple coats) its durability rivals that of Zaino. If you're just getting into it, I might actually try the "Werkstatt Twins" - apparently an updated version of AIO and SG that probably more gives Zaino a good solid run for its money. People are loving it in terms of ease of use and overall looks, but I haven't tried it yet. I've got too much AIO and I love it too much

However, I have pretty much gotten rid of most of my SG, because application/removal can be a bit of a PITA. It's a decent combon on white and light silvers because of its reflectivity. Those colors are about impossible to impart "depth" to, so a sealant is my regular choice.
If you're not happy with the cost of Zaino, the process of mixing, etc. I'd suggest the products from Werkstatt as an alternative - Prime and Acrylic Jett (which is also made in a spray formula).
Anime,
Thanks for the great response, I have a Sebring Silver. Now I have one question, what exactly do you mean by a "silvery shine"? Zaino has given me great results, and its durability is quite nice as well, but I guess I am looking to try something new, and this basically had the same qualities as Zaino.
Also how would the new twins product differ from Klasse to give a better run for the money to Zaino?
Thanks for the great response, I have a Sebring Silver. Now I have one question, what exactly do you mean by a "silvery shine"? Zaino has given me great results, and its durability is quite nice as well, but I guess I am looking to try something new, and this basically had the same qualities as Zaino.
Also how would the new twins product differ from Klasse to give a better run for the money to Zaino?
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AIO is not even close to zaino 2 or 5 in depth or slippery surface after application. I use AIO as a general all around finish polish now. Menzerna FMJ is a direct competitor to zaino giving you the slick zaino surface. There is no special mixing procedures with it and it looks and smells like it.
If you want a zaino substitute, go with the FMJ which comes in quantity so it is cheaper.
If you want a zaino substitute, go with the FMJ which comes in quantity so it is cheaper.
Originally Posted by animeS2K,Jun 5 2006, 11:08 AM
I think wanabe meant to say "David" at autopia was one of the first to top with a carnauba (certainly wasn't my invention!).
but autopia is david's screenname on this board, so its all the same anyway!
and yes, for history purposes, he was one of the first to top synthetics with carnubas (klasse was his synthetic). boiler and i began topping synthetics with carnubas about the same time (we used finish first until zaino came along- then i switched to zaino with carnubas- last time i checked, boiler still uses finish first on his car. i still use it on one of my daughter's cars). back then, sal zaino told us that carnubas would not bind to zaino... but we did it anyway, and we all know how that turned out (many of us now top zaino with carnubas).





