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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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My friend with a Boxster has some RaggTopp protectant and gave some to me to use. This is the one he gave me:

http://www.topoftheline.com/ragprot.html

I noticed that it says "Fabric" on the can and our top is vinyl. Can I still use this? Has anyone ever used this? Thanks
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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i use it all the time on my fabric tops (wife's bmw for example)
i would not use it on the s2000
raggtopp does make a great top product for vinyl, but its not the one you have

on the site you were looking at this is the product (actually a kit with both the cleaner and preservative- you really only need the preservative):

http://www.topoftheline.com/raggtopp-vinyl-kit.html

the cleaner is the same, its the preservative that is diff...

i usually just use car shampoo on the top and then use the preservative made for vinyl on mine
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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Been using the Raggtop Aerosol product that you picture for over 4 years and it works GREAT. Don't be concerned that it says it's for fabric, I've actually met the man that owns the Wolfenstien product line and was told that this is okay to use on our tops.

I apply it every 6-12 months or so. Just put down an old towel to cover the glass and the paint to catch the overspray. The overspray can be cleaned off easy enough but I just find it easier to keep it off the unwanted surfaces in the first place.

My top is over 4 years old and it still looks new, very black color, and beads water nicely.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by S2k Dude,Dec 11 2005, 09:23 AM
Been using the Raggtop Aerosol product that you picture for over 4 years and it works GREAT. Don't be concerned that it says it's for fabric, I've actually met the man that owns the Wolfenstien product line and was told that this is okay to use on our tops.

I apply it every 6-12 months or so. Just put down an old towel to cover the glass and the paint to catch the overspray. The overspray can be cleaned off easy enough but I just find it easier to keep it off the unwanted surfaces in the first place.

My top is over 4 years old and it still looks new, very black color, and beads water nicely.
That's really weird that he would say that. I can't really speak to the chemical reactions that might occur. However, I find it weird that they would make two different products one for vinyl and one for fabric and then say it's OK to use the fabric product on the vinyl. It just is not good business for them to make two products and sell them at the same price when one will work for both. They've essentially doubled their manufacturing costs without increasing their revenues for apparently no reason.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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If you use a good car shampoo on your ragtop, and clean it once a week, you should not need to use any other product on your ragtop. The material used for the ragtop is pretty tough and keeping it clean helps preserve its flexibility when dropping and raising it. Most products may help some in preservation but limit flexibility.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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the purposes of a protectant for a soft top are primarily to provide a "shield" against sun damage (ever seen an old faded top?... i have, and not even that old), and other potential harmful things (such as bird droppings). a protectant will minimize and reduce stains- it wont eliminate them (for example, a top that is protected still needs to be cleaned if it gets bird bombed- but it has a much better chance of avoiding stains than a non-protected top does).
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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I beleive the fabric stuff is a paraffin wax in spray form. I use it on my porsche but would not use it n a vinyl top. It would not hurt the vinyl but really wouldn't protect it like a vinyl product does. I use Raggtopp vinyl on the S2000.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by S2k Dude,Dec 11 2005, 12:23 PM
Been using the Raggtop Aerosol product that you picture for over 4 years and it works GREAT. Don't be concerned that it says it's for fabric, I've actually met the man that owns the Wolfenstien product line and was told that this is okay to use on our tops.

I apply it every 6-12 months or so. Just put down an old towel to cover the glass and the paint to catch the overspray. The overspray can be cleaned off easy enough but I just find it easier to keep it off the unwanted surfaces in the first place.

My top is over 4 years old and it still looks new, very black color, and beads water nicely.
Not that i don't believe your story but i came across this.

Taken right from:

http://www.properautocare.com/prcotopca.html

An interview with Rick Goldstein
President, Wolfsteins Pro-Series

Q: I know it took you over a year to come out with your protectant for vinyl convertible tops. Why couldn't you use the same formula you developed for fabric tops?
A: The properties of woven thread (fabric) and solid sheet (vinyl) tops are so different that they require totally different protective technologies. Protectants optimized for fabric tops simply will not work on vinyl. Plus, almost all vinyl protectants contain either a petroleum distillate or silicone oils. Our RaggTopp Vinyl Protectant contains absolutely no petroleum solvents or silicone oils.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ubetit,Dec 16 2005, 09:39 AM
Not that i don't believe your story but i came across this.

Taken right from:

http://www.properautocare.com/prcotopca.html

An interview with Rick Goldstein
President, Wolfsteins Pro-Series

Q: I know it took you over a year to come out with your protectant for vinyl convertible tops. Why couldn't you use the same formula you developed for fabric tops?
A: The properties of woven thread (fabric) and solid sheet (vinyl) tops are so different that they require totally different protective technologies. Protectants optimized for fabric tops simply will not work on vinyl. Plus, almost all vinyl protectants contain either a petroleum distillate or silicone oils. Our RaggTopp Vinyl Protectant contains absolutely no petroleum solvents or silicone oils.
Wow! I wish Mr. Goldstein would make up his mind.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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An added awesome bonus, when you are RaggTopp protected, snow/ice beads up and breaks away from the top REAL easy. I was cruising out of work at about 25mph, and just tapped the roof a few times to clear the entire roof off. Worked like a charm. (note, I had sat in the car for a few minutes to warm it up, and the inside was fairly toasty by the time I left. IE I may have started the melting process from the inside)
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