Suggest a Sealant
10-18-2007 | 05:07 AM
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Suggest a Sealant
My car is kept outside because I live in an apartment and have no garage. I am hoping that a sealant will help lock in the shine at least for a little while.
I figure my process will be something like this...
Optimum Compound
Optimum Polish
3M Glaze
(SEALANT?)
P21S Wax
I have JW Aryclic Jett, would that work as a sealant?
I figure my process will be something like this...
Optimum Compound
Optimum Polish
3M Glaze
(SEALANT?)
P21S Wax
I have JW Aryclic Jett, would that work as a sealant?
10-18-2007 | 06:58 AM
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would i have to replace all my products w/ Zaino products or could I just use the Z2?
and in regards to skipping the P21S, I am a little confused, isnt Opti-Seal a sealant and not a wax replacement?
Maybe my question is, what should my process be considering my car is an "outside dog"?
and in regards to skipping the P21S, I am a little confused, isnt Opti-Seal a sealant and not a wax replacement?
Maybe my question is, what should my process be considering my car is an "outside dog"?
10-18-2007 | 08:06 AM
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Klasse All in one is a good product that will last longer than a traditional wax. The P21S is a great product that will produce a brillant result, but will not offer the same protection as a good acrylic such as Klasse All in one.
The AIO can be topped with the P21S, or any high quality Carnauba wax.
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10-18-2007 | 10:17 AM
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Frankly, I would skip the glaze. I agree with Ubetit that you should definitely use a long lasting sealant like Zaino or Klasse. However, I disagree that you should skip the carnauba layer at the end. I feel a combination of sealant and carnauba offers the best all around protection for your paint.
Here's a couple interesting posts I pulled off of Detail University by a forum member who has posted over here once or twice. The thread was titled "what's stonger wax or sealant?" Personally, I consider the poster one of the most technically knowledgeable product people out there (although I don't agree with him 100% of the time
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[QUOTE=TOGWT]A Carnauba wax forms a layer on top of the paint surface, whereas a polymer becomes a 'part' of it by bonding with the paint molecules.
When the wax is attacked it acts as a shield that must be compromised before the aggressor can reach the paint surface. A polymer
Here's a couple interesting posts I pulled off of Detail University by a forum member who has posted over here once or twice. The thread was titled "what's stonger wax or sealant?" Personally, I consider the poster one of the most technically knowledgeable product people out there (although I don't agree with him 100% of the time
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Originally Posted by TOGWT
Picus is correct in that Carnauba does provide better environmental protection, albeit very short lived-
1.Polymer sealant- comprises an open linked molecule, which forms a bond with the paint; these open linked polymer molecules join together to create an elongated mesh like effect Some paint sealants contain wax; the longevity of a paint sealant is due to the type of silicone (usually amino-functional silicone) that is used in its formulation. Polymers sealants require a paint to catatonically bond to (usually 12-24 hours); they will not bond directly to metal to provide protection
2.Carnauba wax- molecules are closed linked, which means that they only butt up together to protect the surface and the wax adheres to the paint surface as opposed to bonding with the paint molecules. The wax molecules form an egg-grate type (with the long axis vertical) mesh over the smaller paint molecules of the paint film surface Waxes in themselves even with the addition of silicone fluids are not as durable as the amino-functional silicones found in polymers in the formulation as they do not crosslink; it will resist many environmental contaminants, but only for a short period of time.
3.No wax or polymer sealant can provide a permanent shield against acidic bird excrement (Collinite 845 Insulator Wax is probably the most durable Carnauba wax product) but this may only provide enough of a barrier to enable it to be removed quickly before causing too much damage to the paint film surface.
1.Polymer sealant- comprises an open linked molecule, which forms a bond with the paint; these open linked polymer molecules join together to create an elongated mesh like effect Some paint sealants contain wax; the longevity of a paint sealant is due to the type of silicone (usually amino-functional silicone) that is used in its formulation. Polymers sealants require a paint to catatonically bond to (usually 12-24 hours); they will not bond directly to metal to provide protection
2.Carnauba wax- molecules are closed linked, which means that they only butt up together to protect the surface and the wax adheres to the paint surface as opposed to bonding with the paint molecules. The wax molecules form an egg-grate type (with the long axis vertical) mesh over the smaller paint molecules of the paint film surface Waxes in themselves even with the addition of silicone fluids are not as durable as the amino-functional silicones found in polymers in the formulation as they do not crosslink; it will resist many environmental contaminants, but only for a short period of time.
3.No wax or polymer sealant can provide a permanent shield against acidic bird excrement (Collinite 845 Insulator Wax is probably the most durable Carnauba wax product) but this may only provide enough of a barrier to enable it to be removed quickly before causing too much damage to the paint film surface.
When the wax is attacked it acts as a shield that must be compromised before the aggressor can reach the paint surface. A polymer
10-18-2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyC,Oct 18 2007, 02:17 PM
I agree with Ubetit that you should definitely use a long lasting sealant like Zaino or Klasse. However, I disagree that you should skip the carnauba layer at the end. I feel a combination of sealant and carnauba offers the best all around protection for your paint.
Carnauba is a fantastic protectant when used regularly, but that's the rub. For the summer it's no problem; carnauba wax your car every 2-4 weeks. For a car that sits outside all the time in the cold rain and snow i'd be looking at something that I wouldn't have to redo every few weeks. Unless you are going to religiously apply carnauba you might as well just stick to a good sealant.
