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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Mods should suspend this guy, this sellor is a scammer he knowingly sold me a set of used soft top latches, the LHS latch is broken, RHS is fine. Had the nerve to get me to write on the Pay Pal statement "S2KI: AS-IS USED SET OF SOFT TOP LATCHES LEFT AND RIGHT ONLY"
made comments that he'd been scammed before.
Whom would sell a broken latch, a low life that's whom, thinks he can cover his back by getting me to state "as-is" dispute in place. KARMA IS A BIGGER BITCH!!
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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07GPWVERT PM REPLY:

I apologize that you have a problem with the latch on the left side. When i shipped them from here they were in good condition. If you think i knowingly sold you a defective part, YOU need to take a LOOK at the PIC in the sale thread which CLEARLY shows both LATCHES in the closed/latched position. I have no clue what happened or what you maybe did to the latches. But it is not nice to ASSUME that i knowingly sold you a defective part. I really don't appreciate being called a scammer or a low life as you so called me. I am willing to try & resolve this problem. I really would like to know if they got damaged during shipping, was it broken when it was received? Talk to you soon. Again i apologize.

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Its really simple the LHS latch cross mechanism (that completes the latch closing and staying close, the click sound when engages and locks) was no present. This is usually the main problem with latch's needing replacement. It is the part that will break in most situations usually.

If it broke in transit then it (cross piece) would have still been inside the sealed box. It was not.

Sure in the pics the latches looked closed. As the latch still closes, and the hook still hooks the striker, but the arm hangs down because the cross mechanism is broken off, and the mechanism won't "click" into closed/locked position.





Those whom have experience with a latch that has broken will know exactly what I am saying. The cross piece is plastic and frequently is the source of latches needing to be replaced.
All I am asking for is 50% refund, then move on to get another latch set.
Its not a life and death situation here man, just that it is a pretty good assumption on my behalf, that you knew the condition of the latch. Or possibly didn't even know or check, but you did try to cover yourself with the Pay Pal statement "AS IS"
This makes me think, that you knew what you were selling. For me a person with "integrity" wouldn't even sell something like that. If they did they would a least let the buyer know before hand, during the communications of the sale.
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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07GPWVERT replied:
Well the latches were working just fine as in clicking & latching in place. I am sorry you think i purposely sold you a defective latch. I wish i could of seen the latches when they were delivered, to see if it was damaged during shipping. But since i was not there i can only take your word & i hope it is a truthful. You want 50%, I am only willing to give you back $40. I think this is fair, since i had to fill out customs papers & package product & pay $38 for shipping. If you deny my offer of $40. Then i will have to Fight your dispute. The latches were working when they were shipped, So i have no idea if your trying to pull a fast one on me, Or if you broke it during installation & are trying to blame me for your mistake. This is my final offer, YOU purchased AS IS. Sorry for any inconvience

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The latch was non functional when delivered, there was no broken part in the sealed box, period. The latches were intended as spares as I have perfectly good ones both on my hard top and on my soft top. So no installing going on here.
Couldn't be bothered dealing with the likes of people like you, refund the $40 and I will put this down as a dud experience. I for one have absolutely no need to be anything but truthful and honest. You have revealed whom you are in your desire to "fight".
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Still haven't seen any refund yet .........
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 10:17 PM
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I still feel the mods should suspend this guy, but will leave it up to them.
Any other buyers with this guy...... your choice.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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I have purchased PLENTY of parts from this buyer with no problem.

Well at least he said he would get you a refund of $40, That is good. You should be lucky that he is refunding some money cause with you buying something AS IS kinda puts you in a tight spot.

Best of luck......
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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yeh, I am yet to see the refund, and as I have stated the "AS IS" covered him, sure, but nobody with integrity would sell a dud set of latches, he still denies it of course.
Times must be tough for some.....
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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how did you pay? maybe you can do a charge back or file a claim. Its not cool to knowingly sell a broken item.

Selling it "AS-IS" is not a 'get out of jail free card' if its broken. If he sold it AS-IS not broken then thats how they should be. Unbroken. But its not.
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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GrandMasterKhan,Nov 6 2009, 04:28 PM
how did you pay? maybe you can do a charge back or file a claim. Its not cool to knowingly sell a broken item.

Selling it "AS-IS" is not a 'get out of jail free card' if its broken. If he sold it AS-IS not broken then thats how they should be. Unbroken. But its not.
I paid by Pay Pal and currently have placed a dispute.

He may or may not have unknowingly sold me the broken latch.... only he can answer that to himself.

As I have said it's only one latch, and $75..... of which he has stated that he will refund $40 because he had to fill out customs papers & package product & pay $38 for shipping but he hasn't refunded as of the time of this reply. BTW for the record I paid $150 shipped and pay pal'd, top price imo, since I also got another set shipped from another sellor for $105 shipped and pay pal'd.

If you look at his FOR SALE thread, he had a complete soft top including latches in the pic for sale for the $150 obo. I pm'd him to sell me the latches, he replied that he would for $150 shipped and pay pal'd, saying that I couldn't have the soft top though.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=739857

Integrity is far more valuable a possession then money to me, as for his goodwill..... others can decide. To "fight" is also a lessor stance.

Fact is he has an unhappy buyer in his community, that really has already moved on, $40 refund still outstanding, that he has admitted he would pay.

Guys the way I look at it, for a latch to break in transit from Florida USA to Gold Coast Australia is pretty far fetched, take the time to envision the latch setup closed, the part that was "broken off/missing" is dead in the center of the entire casing. Pretty well protected from all corners, the usps box was of great shape, not bent up and out of shape or squashed.

Picture this as well guys, how do you break the cross mechanism off, whilst installing? Pretty well impossible as the 2 screws are forwards and on the opposite arm of the "cross", I have had my front latches on and off countless times with the Hard Top install, and anybody whom has bought/installed a Mugen style HT shell and separately got the OEM hardwares kit together would know exactly what I mean.
As stated there is no installation of his latches going on here, the purchase is purely for spares.

There was no jury standing over my shoulder whilst I opened the sealed box, the latches were wrapped in newspaper and packaging was ample. I can post pics of the USPS box and newspaper but seriously that won't prove anything. I remain unhappy with this sellor.

You can decide for yourself.....
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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yet to see a refund.....
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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$40 refund accepted, dispute pending closed.... people now have something to gauge by in purchasing from this seller.

As from 11/16/09, 6 days after accepted, Pay Pal still is pending refund review, so $40 hasn't been dropped back into my account yet.

11/18/09 funds have been dropped back into account now. Dispute closed!!!!
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