Hello folks. Had an issue today that I was very surprised came up, and my only method of recourse (if you could call it that) is to bring it out in public and get everyone's views in hopes of trying to understand this "odd" logic.

Earlier in the day I posted a thread in the Electronics section, basically asking that if someone were to design and make a fiberglass enclosure for s2000s, what would they want it to be like.

Now mind you, I don't have an s2000 but my friend does, and it was going to be the test vehicle. I'm also not a shop nor do I make and sell any product of any kind (I'm an IT guy by trade). I have glassing experience from working on my own stuff and others, but nothing professional set up.

The issue is though, a mod pulled my thread, and the following explanation was given:

"As a 'guest' on S2KI.com you are not allowed to post topics like the one about fiberglass sub boxes. It has been removed. To sell on the board in that manner you must be a sponsor."


So I bring it up publically, since I never received a reply from that moderator. How in any way is looking for feedback on a *possible* product that *has not even been started/designed yet* relates to selling and becoming a vendor (which BTW, if product was to be made, I was going to fully comply with the rules and pay any associated fees)?

How is this different than a guy coming here asking "What would be a good setup to build in other's opinions"? Nothing was ever even close to selling or even produced yet. But yet its been pulled, and I've been asked to purchase the vendor status, for something that doesn't even exist yet.

I'd appreciate hearing comments on this from members of this site, because I sincerely question the judgement at hand. I'm not a n00b looking for an e-fight, but it is a pretty big downer when even the mention of selling it (*if* it was produced) automatically got it erased, and I'm now unable to get any feedback. I would gladly start a new thread without mentioning anything about selling it, but I am confident that it will get pulled now regardless.

Opinions? Thanks folks.

 

Sometimes the mods on the site can be a little picky. Thats just my opinion though.

 

Yeah, the mods may be overzealous a bit occasionally, but you have to keep in mind, the site is funded by advertisements (memberships can't amount to much compared to ads) and cthree's (admin of the site) livelihood is centered around keeping a tight ship and keeping advertisers happy. This is the man's job, so a bit of leeway can be afforded, in my opinion.

That being said, I think you may have a valid complaint. I would PM a moderator of the Electronics forum and try to take it up with them. They would know the proper avenues of communication to get this resolved or get you a more adequate explanation of the actions.

 

I *completely* agree on the vendor thing. I am usually one of the first ones who jump in and mention it on the other forums I hang out on. However this was nothing but simply getting some basic feedback/ideas. If it was produced, it would be sold on here since its the largest s2k forum, so its not like I am trying to use this site to develop a product and sell it else-where. I almost wish I simply posted up asking for people's suggestions on the box without mentioning anything about producing them

The thread was pulled by an Electronics forum moderator, and I never received a response when taking the issue up with them.

The message is below:
Hardly being a cry-baby, but this is a venue that I'd like to pursue, and feedback would make or break it, and I fail to see why I should pay any vendor fees if I'm not even close to selling anything yet...



p.s. Please don't post any feedback/comments, as I would prefer not to have this thread pulled as well, until its resolved

 

I saw your thread when it was first posted, and didn't comment on it. I knew it would get pulled though. WLaurent builds glass boxes as you describe, and he's a gold member/vendor (www.darksidesubs.com) and John (darkknight1999) is the Electronics forum mod and he is an active audio equipment vendor.. he also builds popular boxes for sale on this site.

You are actively soliciting information that will be used when/if you offer a product for sale (which will directly compete with the above-mentioned vendors). The end goal is to hopefully produce a product that you can make a buck or two on. While I do not disagree with what you're doing, it should not be a surprise that the thread got deleted. Site policy specifically prohibits it.

 

Thanks, that's a bit more insight. I personally disagree with whatever logic this follows, but if that's how its is, fine.

Thanks for the info.

 

while you may disgagree with the logic, it is cohesive and does make "sense"

 

Which in turn limits new product research and development, thus you're stuck with a bunch of crappy looking/performing stuff. But that's fine, their board, their rules

 

Here is the title of your thread

Selling fiberglass enclosures?, Looking for feedback


The forum mod pulled it based on this. The site rules state you must be a sponsor if you are selling a product. There are a few sponsors for electronics, so the second point is they as sponsors pay to have the right to sell. We protect the sponsors the best we can. "Will" stated the reasons perfectly.

I am sure the folks who are making these similar products don't consider their product crappy. Each enthusiast who has become a sponsor prides themselves in their work. They work with the s2k members to make their products better.

The last deciding factor is you may have a lot of time in on the site, but your contrubtions of 6 posts won't make alot of people comfortable in purchasing a product. The s2k folks are picky to some degree. They want to see a person or company with a solid reputation.

 

I'm with HG.

It is simple. If you want to sell a product here for commercial gain you must pay to do so by becoming a sponsor. Hell you haven't even stumped up $20 for a membership.

Mods decision is final, and that decision made was well within the rules, it was a good decision which has prevented any rule breaking. Look at it from a Sponsor's point of view.

Sorry but you have to pay to play.