My car has been completely reliable with no repairs necessary other than maintenance ... until now. I have a check engine light for code P1457 EVAP Emission Control System Leak Detected (Control Canister System). I also know that there is a TSB for this issue on my car, bulletin number 03001 (NHTSA item #10000993). Since the car is out of warrantee by time, not mileage (MY 2003, 32k miles), I'm hoping that this can be handled under the service manager's discretion for a "goodwill" repair.

Please let me know if you can help.

 

I think that if you have a problem with any part of the emission controls, it doesn't matter if you are outside of the warranty or not, they will fix it for free (and I think it also applies to any safety features (airbag, seatbelts etc).

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but I called a dealer on Friday and the service writer said that this part of the emissions control system was not included in the 8 year, 80,000 mile emissions warrantee. He specifically mentioned that only the catlytic converter and ECU were covered.

According to my owner's manual, the seatbelt in my car (MY 2003) is covered "for the useful life of the vehicle". The emissions warrantee is for a specific time and mileage, and I am well under both, but it apparently does not apply to this part of the emissions control system. I was hoping that since this specific issue was addressed under a TSB that I could get it covered under a "goodwill" repair.

 

honda folks that i know of ..

spoons

gdm s2k

under pressure

i'd pm them and see if they can offer any assistance...


i would 'argue' the point.. it is part of the emissions system...
i mean the name of the part has the word emission in it... who are they kidding?

 

right from hondas IN network



MIL Comes On With DTC P1457: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve Failure
SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P1457 [leak detected in EVAP
control system (EVAP control canister system)] is set.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The EVAP bypass solenoid valve can fail due to
corrosion. The solenoid valve may get water inside. If
the water contains road salt, the solenoid windings
could corrode, causing the valve to fail. In a few rare
instances, the corrosion could be severe enough to
cause an internal short in the solenoid valve, which
could damage the ECM/PCM. If this happens, both the
bypass solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM would need
to be replaced.
Vehicles driven in the Northeastern part of the U.S. are
more likely to have this problem because of the salting
of roads during the winter months. Vehicles driven
where salt is not used on the roads are much less likely
to have this problem.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
1998

 

the main thing is going to be the out of warranty good will thing. if you have a relationship with a local dealer where you have a record of service they should good will it for you

 

Josh,

I had this code awhile back. Took it to the dealer, they reset it, and it was done. Never came back. Is yours coming back after a reset?

Is there a way to defeat the warning? Honestly we have no emissions inspections here in Florida, and even if we did, I'm sure this is a minor thing.

As for a goodwill repair, well good luck. I think it all goes to the DSM. All the Honda DSMs that I've been here since I've owned the car have been complete assclowns. Do they have an estimate on the cost?

 

You are correct Dave, i had my seatbelts replaced due to a recal on the retracting spring or something like that. Funny thing is that the factory seatbelts in are car are made by TAKATA

 

[QUOTE=GDM S2K,Apr 28 2008, 05:48 AM] right from hondas IN network



MIL Comes On With DTC P1457: EVAP Bypass Solenoid Valve Failure
SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P1457 [leak detected in EVAP
control system (EVAP control canister system)] is set.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The EVAP bypass solenoid valve can fail due to
corrosion. The solenoid valve may get water inside. If
the water contains road salt, the solenoid windings
could corrode, causing the valve to fail. In a few rare
instances, the corrosion could be severe enough to
cause an internal short in the solenoid valve, which
could damage the ECM/PCM. If this happens, both the
bypass solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM would need
to be replaced.
Vehicles driven in the Northeastern part of the U.S. are
more likely to have this problem because of the salting
of roads during the winter months. Vehicles driven
where salt is not used on the roads are much less likely
to have this problem.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
1998

 

Thanks for all of the helpful responses, especially the one from GDM S2K!

Since I do not have a service relationship with any dealer (I do all of the maintenance on my car), I'll try to first take care of this myself.
1. Clean the contacts to the EVAP bypass solenoid.
2. Inspect the vacuum hose conections to the solenoid and replace any that are leaking.
3. Reset the ECU and see if the code reappears.
4. If it does, have a friend come over with his OBDII diagnostics unit and follow the procedure listed above.

I asked how much this would cost to repair and I was told "anywhere from $300-over a thousand depending on what is broken." Hopefully I can fix it myself and it will be no worse than replacing the solenoid. I sure hope it's not the ECU (=ECM/PCM?).