Joe,,,


Joe is an asshole..



lol

 

When I was at CarTek in January, they removed my Comptech intake and
the loss of horsepower was 3.7 which sounds about right for an intake on the rollers.
Gerry dyno'd the prototype S2000 PRM intake against an AEM Version 1 and
told me the PRM was one horsepower under the AEM at peak. Since the PRM
is designed to work better at speed (Venturi principle), it would make sense
that it probably would eliminate that loss and actually perform slightly better
at full throttle.
Remember guys, short rams flow better than long tubes at speed. The advantages
of the location of the filter (Injen, AEM) are offset by the length the air has
to move to get to the MAP. Look at it this way. If air is blowing significantly
into the front end of the car at 70mph, it's not going to be heated in that split second it
takes to pass up through the wheel well or the radiator and into the PRM. The
temperature of the air getting to the MAP will be roughly the same as the air
moving through the AEM or INJEN tube. However, the SPEED at which the air
is moving will be higher with the PRM (and yes, the Comptech). Afterall, what
kind of straw is more effective...a short, relatively straight straw or a long
one with bends?
The advantage that the AEM/Injen style intakes have over the PRM is the
generous decrease in heat soak. The PRM draws its air (from a stop or slow
roll) from the engine bay whereas the long tubers draw it from under the car.
When people (very few actually) say the PRM sucks, they are probably
making their commentary based on how it performs at low speed or low
throttle. The very nature of its construction (one entrance point for air which
at WOT, is what contributes to the venturi effect) is what hurts it down low.
The filter is starved for air and ain't getting much at 5 mph. THIS is where the
Comptech improves on the PRM. The filter isn't encased in a condom, rather
an airbox. From start, the filter itself can draw air from a 360-degree radius
around the foam filter whereas the PRM only can suck in air from the horn section...
a significantly smaller diameter of entrance.

If you get past the "PRM sucks" comments (based on what I still haven't
figured out, since neither Alex or Joe has owned one) to look at the pros and
cons of both intakes, you would then realize the phrase could be more aptly
applied with "the PRM sucks from a stop" and as written above, a case
could be made for that. However, at speed, few intakes will perform as well.
The advantage my opinion has on others is I'm soon to be on my 8th (or is
it 9th) intake and have real world experience with the advantages and disadvatages of
all of them and each manufactuers approach to intake design.
One of the disadvantages of the Comptech is the resonance (which can be a
personal matter). Post VTEC, I didn't like the way the sound waves were
bouncing around the airbox. Honda controls those waves with baffles. Comptech
adds nothing and as a result, I got some very weird resonances as soon as the
big cam took over. It had a buzzing tone to it and totally turned me off however
the major reason I sold it was because rain was getting inside the air box following
downpours. Don't ask me how because for the life of me, I couldn't figure it out.
With a vented hood, it had to go. Still, I wasn't happy with the sounds. I've heard
others make similar comments. I think the interaction between a particular exhaust
and intake contributes to it. For some reason, the intake just did not like my car
and I hated my VTEC tone. It had to go.
To date, I think the PRM intake and the AEM Version 2 have the best
VTEC intake honk. We'll see if my new CAI competes.

 

 

Wow, people can we let this one go! PRM, AEM, WTF. Next subject please!

Deiger

 

more testimony from the guy that get's his A$$ whooped in every autoX by a woman with a PRM

 

See what you've caused Ritchie? If you had only done a baseline run before the PRM
all the haters would be chewing air right now. Instead, all we have is about 75 happy
owners worldwide.



Damn, Mitch is bitch-slapping ya Tommy, get back in here!

 

 

Is that counting the owners who sold theirs too? Surely some of those people own used ones.... I mean I've heard of "a sucker born every day" but for 75 days straight? Yeesh

 

They just did a group buy in Europe and the guys over there are loving 'em.
You'll note the plethera of used AEM's that litter the For Sale forum each week.
You don't see many PRM's for sale, in fact, in the past six months I've seen only
four or five pop up. You can find an AEM intake for sale each week.

Those who HAVE bought the PRM tend to keep it while the AEM, despite
being much more popular (advertising, name recognition) seems to have questionable loyalty among
owners if the For Sale forum is any indication. You would think if the PRM is
"so bad," you'd see 'em being dumped for yard sale prices ($50) but USED, they
sell for $100-125 with no sweat.

I'm still waiting for you naysayers to explain to me, at speed, how the air that enters the
AEM intake tract somehow refuses to make it to the PRM. Does the AEM get
magic air from an undisclosed location?

To date, the deepest argument received against the PRM comes in the form
of Tommy's smiley. That pretty much says it all.
But thank you for trying.

 

They don't know any better, they just know it sounds faster than stock.
Because people are upgrading to the V2.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Russ
You don't see many PRM's for sale, in fact, in the past six months I've seen only
four or five pop up.