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It is a LOT of lean, and defintely that pic was from far away, I had my camera at 10x zoom for that.
Maybe we'll get some snap of me in 2 weeks, I have KG/mm's, I should have less lean, bu I have no grip either
Maybe we'll get some snap of me in 2 weeks, I have KG/mm's, I should have less lean, bu I have no grip either
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let's discuss the virtues of the various c/o's.....
i got BC's because i got a killer deal on a slightly used set.
why would one pick JRZ's or spoon over BC's??
i got BC's because i got a killer deal on a slightly used set.
why would one pick JRZ's or spoon over BC's??
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Originally Posted by PLYRS 3,Oct 4 2004, 03:00 PM
because they're totally different cars...that's all you got?
vader's speechless.....wow!
vader's speechless.....wow!
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I've done a little research, not enough to drop the $3000-$4000 on coilovers yet. Still have speed to get from more seat time.
1) JRZ's are designed by the same shock guys that do F1 and a lot of touring car.
2) What are the fast guys running? I mean national level competition guys. Moton's (have some common guys as JRZ), Penske's, JRZ, custom application Koni's.
3) The marketing specs, (haven't confirmed these).
- JRZ's don't use needle valves that have non-linear damping response.
- JRZ's have extra wide chambers for more control over short strokes, i.e. lowered, stiffened suspension
- the expensive ones have independent adjustability for high speed compression, low speed compression and rebound
4) Supposedly will last longer on the track, i.e. won't lose damping when hot from extended abuse
5) The stock shocks and springs are pretty darn good already. If I'm going to upgrade, I want the best (when I'm ready for it). Don't want to buy suspension twice.
Is it worth the diff in $$$. I think it depends if you are a good enough driver to notice a benefit. And if you are, you have to be experienced enough or have local shops that can tune the valving/spring rates for your different applications, car and driver style. Suspension is one of those things that have to be configured properly or any brand can suck balls.
1) JRZ's are designed by the same shock guys that do F1 and a lot of touring car.
2) What are the fast guys running? I mean national level competition guys. Moton's (have some common guys as JRZ), Penske's, JRZ, custom application Koni's.
3) The marketing specs, (haven't confirmed these).
- JRZ's don't use needle valves that have non-linear damping response.
- JRZ's have extra wide chambers for more control over short strokes, i.e. lowered, stiffened suspension
- the expensive ones have independent adjustability for high speed compression, low speed compression and rebound
4) Supposedly will last longer on the track, i.e. won't lose damping when hot from extended abuse
5) The stock shocks and springs are pretty darn good already. If I'm going to upgrade, I want the best (when I'm ready for it). Don't want to buy suspension twice.
Is it worth the diff in $$$. I think it depends if you are a good enough driver to notice a benefit. And if you are, you have to be experienced enough or have local shops that can tune the valving/spring rates for your different applications, car and driver style. Suspension is one of those things that have to be configured properly or any brand can suck balls.
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You guys should have seen that mini. When I was out marshalling, I noticed he was touching the brakes only twice on the whole course!!! A quick tap on a tight gate and the stop box.
He did spin out a few times too
Oh yea, so did I
but I blame the street tires.
Went on a run with Steve at the end. His car was hooking up a lot better. Sure miss my Rs I usually run on my subie . . . Got to get a set, so I guess I'm looking for 16" rims
anyone have an extra set?
He did spin out a few times too
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Oh yea, so did I
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Went on a run with Steve at the end. His car was hooking up a lot better. Sure miss my Rs I usually run on my subie . . . Got to get a set, so I guess I'm looking for 16" rims
anyone have an extra set?
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I'm pretty sure Jasonoff is still trying to unload some 16" rims. Good for track wheels.
Just look in the for sale forum. Every once in a while a set comes up for around $400 US.
Just look in the for sale forum. Every once in a while a set comes up for around $400 US.