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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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With all due respect to Honda's recommendation of 225 RE050a replacing S02s, how do they fit? I have some "place holder" 225 Toyo Proxes T1-R tyres and it is quite clear that 225 is totally wrong (too skinny) for the rear. Do the RE050a also have a 245 foot print like the S02 or are they truly 225s?
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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I understand they really are 225, so probably look a bit narrow.

With 205/245 on mine the front looks wider than it did with S02s, but the rears look the same.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:06 AM
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I have the opportunity to check later today. I'm putting on a newly refurbed set of 16" with RE050A (205/225) and removing the original wheels with S02's.

I'll line them up next to each other while the car is up on stands.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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In theory the width should be the same.

However, the rear S02s had a larger contact area (i.e. less tread/drainholes) so actuall more rubber was in contact with ground than normal 225s (which all have larger rain channels/tread etc.). That's why it's always been recommended to go for 245 if not s02s.

It is my understanding that the RE050s have larger tread/drain channels than the s02s so for the equivalent amound of rubber contact (i.e. grip!) you need larger size.

I could be wrong but I've never had conclusive reasoning to say otherwise.

Basically you want as much rear grip as the S02s provide.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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The central grooves do look huge on the RE050A's.

Things are not going well at work today so this may be a job for tomorrow.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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The tread isn't as wide either. So it's a double whammy effect of less width and wider grooves.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 03:46 AM
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The S-02s had a wider tread (245) on the (225) carcass, which is why they look so 'square'.

The larger carcass will pull the sidewalls in a bit further, resulting in more internal slip (squim) than a 225 would.

Also I understand the the 050A is not yet available in the 'correct' 245/45-16 size, which is thy everyone is going for the 'recommended' size.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves,Nov 10 2007, 12:46 PM
Also I understand the the 050A is not yet available in the 'correct' 245/45-16 size, which is thy everyone is going for the 'recommended' size.
Well that makes me feel a bit better about getting the 225's. For a minute I thought I had missed out on something.

I remember putting some S03 225's on a few years ago and the rears lasted about 6000 miles.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Well, I will go for the "recommended" 205/225 in RE-01Rs then, since they also don't have the 245s in this yet. They are only place holders for when switching over race/street tyres on my 17" anyway.

Thanks a bunch.
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