911/NSX/Noble - how much better than the S on twisties?
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A friend of mine drives an early 996 Carrera. When I told him I was getting the S, he said he loves them and really wants a go once I get it. I was a bit surprised at the response but just goes to show how much respect the S gets out there.
I have let him drive my car now and he commented on how much better the turn in was in the S and how precise he felt the front end was compared to the Porker. Much pointier. His car is lowered on stiffer springs as well.
I have let him drive my car now and he commented on how much better the turn in was in the S and how precise he felt the front end was compared to the Porker. Much pointier. His car is lowered on stiffer springs as well.
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The subjectivity of this thread is entirely endless, because it depends on the drivers at the time.
Val and I travelled back from Shelsley Walsh hillclimb last Sunday on the A44 and some of you may know the very twisty climb above Broadway, between Evesham and Moreton in the Marsh. The bends are really very keen if you are going at speed.
My S is perfectly balanced and always has correct tyre pressures, so I was delighted to find an 03 plated 911 on my tail just at the start of the climb, passing Broadway roundabout. The usual young gun plus bimbo and determined to show the superior driver of the superior car. Fortunately the hill was pretty clear going up, so I thought "what the hell!"
He was actually unwilling or unable to pass me on the long climbing run up to the start of the steep bit and my rev limiter was busy in 3rd & 4th. At the first hairpin, he neally lost it altogether whilst I simply squirted the S onwards and upwards. He came back on the next straight bit before the second hairpin but was totally eclipsed as mine simply drove round the corner power on all the way in 3rd to the limit, then 4th to the limit then over the top at about 100+, carefully avoiding a couple of family MPV's going home from their Sunday drives. Then back to 60 along the 44. It was quite comical to watch a 911 in my mirror driving along with a distinct black cloud over it.
He turned right at Moreton lights where I turned left, but alongside for a few seconds he did call over and say "that's some car, I had no idea they were so quick". "Yes Sonny, and half the price" I said, and turned left. Val smiled at Bimbo who did not smile back.
I reckon it was a Carrera 2 or what ever they are called now.
Val and I travelled back from Shelsley Walsh hillclimb last Sunday on the A44 and some of you may know the very twisty climb above Broadway, between Evesham and Moreton in the Marsh. The bends are really very keen if you are going at speed.
My S is perfectly balanced and always has correct tyre pressures, so I was delighted to find an 03 plated 911 on my tail just at the start of the climb, passing Broadway roundabout. The usual young gun plus bimbo and determined to show the superior driver of the superior car. Fortunately the hill was pretty clear going up, so I thought "what the hell!"
He was actually unwilling or unable to pass me on the long climbing run up to the start of the steep bit and my rev limiter was busy in 3rd & 4th. At the first hairpin, he neally lost it altogether whilst I simply squirted the S onwards and upwards. He came back on the next straight bit before the second hairpin but was totally eclipsed as mine simply drove round the corner power on all the way in 3rd to the limit, then 4th to the limit then over the top at about 100+, carefully avoiding a couple of family MPV's going home from their Sunday drives. Then back to 60 along the 44. It was quite comical to watch a 911 in my mirror driving along with a distinct black cloud over it.
He turned right at Moreton lights where I turned left, but alongside for a few seconds he did call over and say "that's some car, I had no idea they were so quick". "Yes Sonny, and half the price" I said, and turned left. Val smiled at Bimbo who did not smile back.
I reckon it was a Carrera 2 or what ever they are called now.
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I once chased a Carrera 4 along a dual carriageway.
He got away, but not by much, because there's only so fast one can go along a given road.
Next roundabout, I went round him. WTF?
My theory about German cars being bought for the wrong reasons, I suppose.
He got away, but not by much, because there's only so fast one can go along a given road.
Next roundabout, I went round him. WTF?
My theory about German cars being bought for the wrong reasons, I suppose.
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Hi euan!
You been getting octane injections???
This time last year you were saying, don't mind me I'll just pootle along at the back and catch up later - now you're looking for the ultimate road runner
That VTEC buzz is un-hinging your brain
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I've had a go in a couple of older 911's, air-cooled, no driver aids (not even ABS ) and TBH I think they're very similar to the S. Get it right and the feeling is greeeaaaatttt, change your mind in the corner and you're looking at a big moment.
I don't think the enjoyment bit is all down to the driver. Perfectly competent, sorted cars that protect (read understeer heavily) can be dull as ditchwater to drive even on open, flowing roads. It doesn't mean they won't keep up tho'
You been getting octane injections???
This time last year you were saying, don't mind me I'll just pootle along at the back and catch up later - now you're looking for the ultimate road runner
That VTEC buzz is un-hinging your brain
.
.
.
.
.
... welcome to the club
I've had a go in a couple of older 911's, air-cooled, no driver aids (not even ABS ) and TBH I think they're very similar to the S. Get it right and the feeling is greeeaaaatttt, change your mind in the corner and you're looking at a big moment.
I don't think the enjoyment bit is all down to the driver. Perfectly competent, sorted cars that protect (read understeer heavily) can be dull as ditchwater to drive even on open, flowing roads. It doesn't mean they won't keep up tho'
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The 360 is a great big fat bastard:
I once had to overtake a 355 and a TVR as they were holding me up on a twisty, narrow road!
Good things come in small packages.
That is apparently what made the ur-911 such a good machine.
Amd the S2000.
I once had to overtake a 355 and a TVR as they were holding me up on a twisty, narrow road!
Good things come in small packages.
That is apparently what made the ur-911 such a good machine.
Amd the S2000.
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I could piss all over the S in the Tamora in the twisties wet or dry
When are you sorting a meet out up there in Leeds?
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