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Old Sep 6, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Yes, PDs.

Sprints don't tax brakes at all, most people in road cars use the stock brakes. At most you do 2 laps at a time. For that reason it's kind to the drivetain and car in general (cough cough trying to encourage participation).

It's track days which are killing me - and obviously I'm aware some tracks are harder on brakes than others - but I was getting judder after 10 mins at Combe last weekend with Dixcel discs and CL6 pads. Much as I used to with DS2500s and stock discs.
Sounds more like a pad problem than a disc one, though I'm no expert. I used to get a bit of judder with the Dixcels but they seem to have sorted that now (FCR discs and Z or RA pads).
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 12:14 AM
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Rc6 should be more than man enough for pretty much anything. I've got the rc5+ and I haven't lost braking at any track day yet (except for one corner I overshot the brake point after 2 previously hard stops from 100+), and when I did, it was the fluid not the pads, there's deffo something wrong with the setup. I'm on cheap blanks as well. Nothing at all wrong with them, will change them yearly along with the fluid,
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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Do Dixcel's not rust at all?

Are Dixcel disks with OEM pads a good combination?
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Are the Bremtech's as good as OEM? Because they are well cheap in comparison

I was looking for an upgrade..
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Old Sep 7, 2014 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1four7break
Are the Bremtech's as good as OEM? Because they are well cheap in comparison I was looking for an upgrade..
Yup. And use the savings you made on the disk to invest in some good pads

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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1four7break
Are the Bremtech's as good as OEM? Because they are well cheap in comparison

I was looking for an upgrade..
Exactly the same...

They will rust though so be aware.
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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 07:13 AM
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Dixcel SD here look fantastic. OEM size. paired with DS2500, Hel Lines, uprated fluid and freshly rebuilt calipers.
looks epic, stops epic, takes a massive beating on track with zero issue.


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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim S
Yes, PDs.

Sprints don't tax brakes at all, most people in road cars use the stock brakes. At most you do 2 laps at a time. For that reason it's kind to the drivetain and car in general (cough cough trying to encourage participation).

It's track days which are killing me - and obviously I'm aware some tracks are harder on brakes than others - but I was getting judder after 10 mins at Combe last weekend with Dixcel discs and CL6 pads. Much as I used to with DS2500s and stock discs.
The PD's are high quality alternative to an OEM disc. The main advantages over the OEM is the anti corrosion coating. Whilst it wont last forever it will protect the discs and keep them looking better for longer.

However what they are not is a track day / race disc. If you are exceeding the limits of the PS then I highly recommend going to the FCR FP when you come to replacement. They have been put to the test by many on here and lived to stop another day!

Send me a PM when you need to change and we can make sure ou get the correct advice.

Originally Posted by Al_G
Do Dixcel's not rust at all?

Are Dixcel disks with OEM pads a good combination?
They won't not ever rust! But they will stay looking great for much much longer.

Send me a PM if you are interested in buying a set.
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 04:36 AM
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for value I think youll struggle to beat the MTEC discs...these are what ill be moving to next month
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Old Sep 9, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Spoon Sports Europe
If you are using your car on the Road the CL6 pads will be the issue here. They are a race compound pad. Race compound pads should NOT be used on the road. Whilst the pads will seem to be working fine, when they are outside their correct operating temperature they will be 10 or more times aggressive than when they stabilise. This will cause the accelerated ware and potentially damaging ferrous dust / deposits on the bodywork, wheels and other components.
Sorry Anthony - I missed this post before - I only use the car on the road to get to and from the track. The RC6's are actually very good for not leaving deposits on things. CL's UK importer recommended them for sprinting and track days because they work from cold.

Originally Posted by Spoon Sports Europe
Originally Posted by Tim S' timestamp='1410046821' post='23319373
Yes, PDs.
The PD's are high quality alternative to an OEM disc. The main advantages over the OEM is the anti corrosion coating. Whilst it wont last forever it will protect the discs and keep them looking better for longer.

However what they are not is a track day / race disc. If you are exceeding the limits of the PS then I highly recommend going to the FCR FP when you come to replacement. They have been put to the test by many on here and lived to stop another day!

Send me a PM when you need to change and we can make sure ou get the correct advice.
I was actually completely wrong when I said PD's - getting confused by the 2 letter names - looking at the boxes I've actually got FP's. The discs themselves are lasting ok, aren't cracking or anything, but the combination of those and CL RC6's are juddering when hot and then going spongy afterwards. I've read the disc temps immediately after coming in off the track when they've been hot (following a cooling down lap) and they're only 270C at that point, obviously I don't know the maximum temperature they got to.

Anyhow, I think the next step is to fit the cooling ducts I keep not getting round to.
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