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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by moff,Feb 2 2007, 03:40 AM
Believe me, I am not happy... just think I would find it very difficult to prove.

The conditions were less than perfect too... misty, patchy fog, damp... not worth the hassle. My witness lives in the US too, so it wouldbe a nightmare to try and sort.
Entrapment plain and simple.

If you took this to court and it showed his speed increasing as you attempted to overtake then this pretty much breaks every rule in the Police Code of driving. He was out to get you knicked.

If it were me I would be very upset and it would have been unlikely that I would have chatted to the pr*ck in his car about how naughty I had been. More likely a bunch of 'no comments' and 'I think this is entrapment I want to go to court'. Trouble is they (Police) know that most of us for
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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I'd give it a go at taking this further - at least worth seeing the 'evidence' against you

Most forces probably cant spell entrapment anyway!
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 03:27 AM
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I think you are taking this far to well. It's f^^king entrapment as far as I'm concerned and you should have been getting his badge and the video evidence and then pointing out in court that you can clearly see the police car accelerating when you try to go past normally, etc. W@nkers IMHO - these people need to lose their jobs!!!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Saxo Boy,Feb 2 2007, 04:27 AM
I think you are taking this far to well.
144: Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk

Which can be prosecuted under;

MW10 Contravention of Special Roads Regulations (excluding speed limits) 3
DD40 Dangerous Driving 3-11
CD10 Driving without due care and attention 3-9
CD20 Driving without reasonable consideration for other road users 3-9
CD30 Driving without due care and attention or without reasonable consideration for other road users 3-9

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Drive...ons/DG_10022425

I would love to see the defense of this case
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 03:51 AM
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out of intrest were there one or two of them in the car?

I agree that if his speed increaced after you had signeled to overtake then it constitutes entrapment as he forced you to excede the speedlimit. Not sure if I would persue it though.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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[QUOTE=moff,Feb 2 2007, 10:40 AM]Just had a look at the ticket, and it does actually say the speed - 81.11mph... so the git wasn't lenient at all - he gave me the correct fine for the speed. IIRC you need to do 25mph+ before it gets over 3 points and a
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by moff,Feb 2 2007, 09:10 AM
He was a nice enough bloke, knew his cars and was part of a VW Cup Racing team and we got on okay.
If this was the case then why did he speed up.

A complete feckin twat

If it was VASCAR he might have had video evidence-that may have been enough to incriminating him for baiting.

I think we all know speeding is a lottery-it always catches up with you.
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mcbain23,Feb 2 2007, 01:07 PM
Is that right - 25mph+ ? Is that for any speed limit? Does anyone have any official info - I've had a look at page Endorsements page -
No
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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To play devil's advocate for a moment. I don't necessarily agree with my comments here.

Moff, you were exceeding the speed limit. Simple enough. If the Vectra was speeding up you still had the opportunity to let it go away from you because I presume you were trying to overtake it so that it wasn't an obstruction to your progress.

The Highway code IIRC also states that breaking the speed limit is not permissible, even when over taking. So reg your points could be used against you.

Essentially I reckon you won't be able to prove entrapment.

Sorry mate
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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 04:33 AM
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^^^ Two wrongs don't make a right. I hardly see how the police could stand in court and say, "Yeah, we pushed him along - we enticed him to race on a public road so that we could catch him". The bottom line is the police played a part in encouraging the disregard of a law! They should be done as well IMHO.
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