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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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i have a set of lightweight wheel nuts, i cant remember where i got them from but i can say they were not cheap ebay tat or expensive Ray's something in the middle

came to take the wheel off yesterday for a small job and two nuts sheared off leaving the seat firmly bolted on to the stud and about 5mm of hex left, im not sure if it was because the bolts were cold but the biggest cause i think was where the wheel stud finished matched where the socket finished on the wheel wrench making a stress raiser, thereis simply not enough metal or the metal is not strong enough, i always coated the stud with coper slip to stop the threads binding

i cant say if Rays are any better but i suspect i would not be facing a good few hours of F*"%kin around and possibly expensive wheel repair if i had paid the extra
ow it should look
shear line matches where socket finishes
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:50 AM
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Ouch!! Such small item causing such big misery. Hope you get it sorted without an expensive bill.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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Is that bolt tapered, Steve? I mean the actual bolt head itself. Looks fatter at the base but may be the camera angle.
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 01:27 AM
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its just the photo
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 02:43 AM
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Wow thats horrible!
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:15 AM
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i had 5zigen ones on my last car and they worked fine, but since then i've decided to stay away from aluminium nuts. the risk of them shearing is too high.

pro track drivers use them as a use once disposable item, the light weight ones aren't designed for repeat use.

i've gone for some steel internal drive ones

fairly light, (not as much as ally ones, but because they are steel they won't cross alloy bond, and will be strong enough not to snap. and the advantage of internal drive is you can't damage the wheel as socket goes inside the nut and not externally. and all 5 nuts are locking nuts as it has a special removal key.

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:16 AM
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Hope you had enough hexagon left to take the remaining bit off!

I hate all those crappy lightweight nuts... really don't think the risk of them doing exactly what happened to yo is worth the weight loss you get from them
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:40 AM
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if you cant get enough socket on it, find a smaller socket that doesn't quiet fit and then drive it on with a hammer.then un bolt. doesn't work with cheap sockets though.


looking at that you don't have a lot to play with
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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tried both and no chance, the metal is too soft and not enough left
1st attempt is not looking pretty but i have an idea for the second one
im so pissed off with it i am givingt a rest until next wekend
I think i will have more sucsess with a calm head
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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i would say weld something to it, but its ally so that won't work unless you have a tig welder. a hex spanner might work

other option is a dremmel, split the nut as far as you can without damamging the thread. basically put a notch either side. then with a srewdriver and a hammer drive the screw driver into the notch to tray and split the nut. thing is half the nut is hiding into the wheel.

i think there are some special nut extractors you can get, you hit it on to the brocken nut it bitesinto the metal and then you can twist it off. think they use them fro removing locking wheel nuts. try your local garage.
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