Mate of mine got pulled by the police for 113 mph on an mway two months ago and he only just got the court summons now. Don't they have to give you something within two weeks? or is that the NIP. Can the policeman give you an NIP there and then on the spot?

I think he will lose his license. What are the good websites he can go to for advice?

 

www.pepipoo.co.uk

Good luck!

Andy

 

Verbal NIP allows 6 months for processing IIRC.

 

Yes when they pull you in person rather than on a camera they give you the NIP verbally and so have 6 months to serve the summons.

There are a number of threads on here about what to do in these circumstances.

Your mate needs to be realistic about his fate which probably is a ban, but he needs to start thinking of so called mitigating factors such as it was daylight, the road was dry, traffic was light, it was just a momentary rush of blood to the head, I have 493 years of trouble free motoring etc etc.

There is probably no need to be represented by a solicitor but he might want to consult one before the hearing.

 

Your mate is unlikely to keep his licence if he uses the mitigating circs given above. These show a disregard for the law and says to the magistrates that so long as it is a nice day and not much on the roads it is OK to do these stupid speeds (they will be unimpressed). If he wants to keep his licence he should appear in court, apologise profusely and try to convince the magistrates that to take his licence away would cause personal and financial hardship (ie only driver in family, needs car to get to work, take kids to school etc etc lay it on nice and thick). If banned this should only be for a matter of weeks.

 

Inclined to agree. There's a school of thought that says magistrates will up the fines if they see you can afford legal represenation.

I was done for over a ton on the M6 last year and got away with a 7 day ban and zero points. The clincher was a letter from my employer (which I helped draft ) stating how vital my having a car was to the company (the magistrates are out to punish the driver, not the employer). The letter also indicated my employers strong disapproval of my speeding; this was a sop to the magistrates so they could feel content that I was going to get a slap from them and my employer.

I was done for 104 mph ... but I fear 113 mph will be seen as more serious. I can't see any circumstances under which a ban will not be the outcome ...

 

Oops. I think it's a done deal sadly.

If your mate can prove they need the car for work, etc that's probably the best. But, TBH I would bank on getting a 12 month ban and fine up to

 

Be sorry. Very sorry. Don't use a lawyer.

Say that you accept that you were stupid and in the wrong and whilst there was a particular reason that you were speeding on that particualr day, it's no excuse.

Come up with a good reason before hand but DON'T use it unless specifically asked.

I got done for 76 in a 40 (shameful I know, but it was a open two lane dual carrageway) and got a 2 week ban,

 

This is bollocks.

As I said a ban is the likely outcome, but the road conditions and state of traffic are relevant.

If you are doing 113 mph weaving in and out of rush hour traffic on the M4 in the dark when it is raining the offence is far more grave than if it committed at 5.30 am in the summer (so that it is light), on a dry road with next to no traffic about.

The fact remains that you were doing 113 mph, but the likelihood of an accident affecting other innocent road users is far greater in the first scenario than in the second and that is a factor which the magistrates should and will take into account in determining the penalty.

 

The policeman did not use a radar gun he used a stopwatch standing on one bridge, starting it when the car broke shadow on the earlier bridge and stopping it on another point. Is this method more contestable?