s2konroids

I often see people say front upper strut braces are no good, why?

I guess because it negatively effect rigidity/working of the suspension or in fact does nothing at all?

zzkamikazezz

Isn't it because the turrents already have a big beam welded across connecting them below the airbox to stop any flex?

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MSC

This is what I was told, hence why mine is for bling and bling alone. It's added weight though and it bothers me. It also gets in the way of the fipk filter surround.

Tim S

They work well on cars with Macpherson Strut front suspension as the turrets are a pick up point for the suspension and steering - if they flex it affects geometry. On double wishbone cars the effects of flex are much less as the turret isn't a direct pick up point.

I can't see they'd cause any harm other than additional weight.

Dembo

I thought mine made no difference when I first go it, but I have to admit, I took it off once and I could feel the car was flexing more.

So it makes a difference, but a small one. As Tim says, probably a lot of people put them on FWD cars with Macpherson struts (I had one on my FTO) where they do make a big difference and assume it's going to be the same.

The one to get on the S is the rear lower, for some reason.

Nick Graves

I agree - experimentation suggests that fitting one brace alone seems to transfer the flex to the other end - ie, a bottom brace seems to create a feeling of flex at the damper tops. Ultimately, both provides the best steering feel, which the standard car lacks.

Likewise, replacing the piece of trim at the back with a proper bar improves breakaway feel markedly. I was sceptical at first, so hopefully it isn't just we're all suffering from confirmation bias.

I am always incredulous that some will ruin their cars will poorly-contrived coliover lowering kits and crap wheels, etc, without trying the one simple, cheap and easy improvement first, which makes the car how it should have been fromn the factory. Honda would have sold many more in the UK if it hadn't frightened so many inept hacks with the early cars.

S2000_sam

Yes recently fitted front and rear lower braces, I was very sceptical about their worth, but did notice extra "feel" in the steering and from the back in the twisties.

SCZ4

Which ones did you fit?

Nick Graves

whitline fromt cosco rear

S2000_sam

Spoon. Lower X and rear both