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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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The S is designed to handle the twisties.

But as a traffic light hero, modest family hatches can keep up.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jack_ako,Oct 14 2009, 09:50 PM
Now with that set up, i wouldn't dare enter corners or roundabouts in the S like i could in my golf, the grip was amazing but it goes without saying the S could beat it every other way.
Ahhh but is that a reflection on your confidence and or ability or the cars?
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Possibly confidence to be honest but with the S, the back end can let go alot more easy and the golf would stay planted.



Not to most peoples taste but i absolutely loved that car but it had to go when i got the S bug.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I have an oil burner chipped to 250bhp (allegedly).

There is no way it would get near a well driven S kept in vtec.

Sure it would trounce an S in accelerating from 70 in 6th gear or some silly contest like that.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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I just answer "On which track?"

And qualify it with "Shall we book onto the track day then?"

And try not to fall asleep whilest they make excuses, normally not having any money/holiday/intelligence/blah.
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaspode,Oct 14 2009, 10:54 PM
The S is designed to handle the twisties.

But as a traffic light hero, modest family hatches can keep up.
But not a chipped Fabia !

9.5 to 60 'ish standard even when remapped doesn't become under 6

But, as has been said, in reality WGAF
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Steve, could have been in the operator 'camp'
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Says it all
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jack_ako,Oct 14 2009, 10:01 PM
Possibly confidence to be honest but with the S, the back end can let go alot more easy and the golf would stay planted.



Not to most peoples taste but i absolutely loved that car but it had to go when i got the S bug.
You are either going faster in your S than you think and/or your geo and/or tyres are shite, basically!
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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I had a Fabia vRS. I bought the nasty piece of sh1t as a work beater. Picked it up on a Friday and it went up for sale the following Monday. It was, without question, the lousiest car I have ever driven.

Although mine was standard and I'm no engineer, I'm confident that no amount of suspension work could have changed the fact that the Fabia was too narrow, too tall, too heavy and too numb to ever be a trully good handling or satisfying car. When I made the point to other owners, their response was "well, it's a Skoda, it's not supossed to be a hot hatch". That point never came across in the brochure strangely enough!

As for performance, I agree with the comments elsewhere in the thread, you're not going to take 3.5s out of the 0-60 with a 180bhp chip. Sure, once you're up and running the differences are harder to detect, but the narrow rev range does nothing for performance. Big capacity diesels will leave you for dead on a motorway, but I've never been embarassed by them elsewhere, so a 1.9tdi made up of a bunch of old VW reject parts isn't going to put up too much of fight, is it?

This is all accademic anyway - I don't much care how quick a car is as long as it feels right. Sitting in the Fabia's 3rd world interior (and mine had leather FFS) as it wobbled and wallowed it's miserable way along definitely didn't.

Oh hell! Sounds like my scars haven't healed yet, doesn't it?...........
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