MPG
Sorry to be boring (and as a lurker rather than a poster you can put my s2ki cred on a stamp) but....
I want to keep my s2000 but I need to provide myself with a decent argument that it's 'sensible'
These are my MPGs based on a 40 mile daily run, 20 motorway, 20 mixed
34mpg - shell super UL - driving like a granny in a Jazz. Gentle throttle, 65mph on motorway
31mpg - BP ultimate - normal /heavy driving. Upper motorway speeds.
28mpg - shell normal - normal/heavy, upper motorway speeds.
Also
41.2mpg - motorway shell super ul - back on m6 in warmed up car heavy traffic 50-70mph for about 200miles then a refuel (based on refuel stat)
I've had a few plain hatches in the past and I've rarely got more than 35mpg out of them and I've often caned them to stay in my place in traffic. I'm looking at a few uberdiesels that do 35-40mpg (or 32-35mpg if you bear in mind the extra price of diesel) and I'm thinking the s2k is the more sensible drive.
I'd welcome any thoughts (even if its to stick the boot in), the s2k is the car I wanted to stick 100k on but I have a nasty habit of cruising ebay and autotrader
I want to keep my s2000 but I need to provide myself with a decent argument that it's 'sensible'
These are my MPGs based on a 40 mile daily run, 20 motorway, 20 mixed
34mpg - shell super UL - driving like a granny in a Jazz. Gentle throttle, 65mph on motorway
31mpg - BP ultimate - normal /heavy driving. Upper motorway speeds.
28mpg - shell normal - normal/heavy, upper motorway speeds.
Also
41.2mpg - motorway shell super ul - back on m6 in warmed up car heavy traffic 50-70mph for about 200miles then a refuel (based on refuel stat)
I've had a few plain hatches in the past and I've rarely got more than 35mpg out of them and I've often caned them to stay in my place in traffic. I'm looking at a few uberdiesels that do 35-40mpg (or 32-35mpg if you bear in mind the extra price of diesel) and I'm thinking the s2k is the more sensible drive.
I'd welcome any thoughts (even if its to stick the boot in), the s2k is the car I wanted to stick 100k on but I have a nasty habit of cruising ebay and autotrader
I was a little concerned about fuel consumption when I got my s. Having had my little yaris "stop gap" for a while, I was expecting empty pockets!
I'm averaging about 32 mpg with "normal" driving, which is perfectly acceptable in my opinion
I'm averaging about 32 mpg with "normal" driving, which is perfectly acceptable in my opinion
No doubt someone will tell you that the S2K isn't the car to have if you are worried about mpg. However before going down the diesel route I'd think long and hard. My last two-ish years of car ownership:
S60 D5: scraped 40mpg if I was lucky on mostly motorway, 300 a year to insure, tax around £220 per year I believe, spare/service parts crazy expensive compared with petrol equivalent, was staring at a clutch/DMF change at around £1200 before I sold it to a trader. Lost £700 when resold on a car a year on, on a car that was sub 3k and ten years old when I bought it.
S2000: 35mpg on the motorway, 300 to insure although this is on half the miles so maybe add £100 for equivalent, tax £270, spares reasonable if you know where to look, no massive costs lurking unless I blow up the engine. From PH/autotrader prices I'd be confident of getting back what I paid if I chose to sell it (which I'm not)
S60 D5: scraped 40mpg if I was lucky on mostly motorway, 300 a year to insure, tax around £220 per year I believe, spare/service parts crazy expensive compared with petrol equivalent, was staring at a clutch/DMF change at around £1200 before I sold it to a trader. Lost £700 when resold on a car a year on, on a car that was sub 3k and ten years old when I bought it.
S2000: 35mpg on the motorway, 300 to insure although this is on half the miles so maybe add £100 for equivalent, tax £270, spares reasonable if you know where to look, no massive costs lurking unless I blow up the engine. From PH/autotrader prices I'd be confident of getting back what I paid if I chose to sell it (which I'm not)
OK, let's do some sums.
Based on the latest average prices, let's say Shell Regular is £1.33 per litre, Shell V-Power is £1.42 and Diesel is £1.38.
I don't know your holiday entitlement, so we'll say it's 20 days per annum. The are 8 Bank Holidays this year too.
So...
52 weeks x 5 working days = 260 working days.
260 - (8 Bank Holidays + 20 days holiday entitlement) = 232 working days total this year.
You're doing 40 miles per day. 40 x 232 = 9280 miles per annum (of course, this is excluding weekends and other trips etc., but let's just stick to working days for now).
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You're seeing 28 MPG with Shell Regular.
9280 / 28 = 331.42857142857142 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1506.7041142857142 litres total.
At £1.33 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1506.7041142857142 x £1.33)
£2003.916472
or rounded up
£2003.92
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You're seeing 34 MPG with Shell V-Power.
9280 / 34 = 272.94117647058823 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1240.8151529411764 litres total.
At £1.42 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1240.8151529411764 x £1.42)
£1761.9575171764705
or rounded up
£1761.96
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If you buy a stinky, nasty oil burner, let's say you'll be seeing 40 MPG.
9280 / 40 = 232 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1054.69288 litres total.
At £1.38 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1054.69288 x £1.38)
£1455.4761744
or rounded up
£1455.48
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Summary:
Let's ignore the Shell Regular figure, because you shouldn't really be using that (a higher RON is much preferred for smoother running), plus it's obvious that by using V-Power you'll be saving anyway.
The fuel bill to run the S2000 per annum =
£1761.96
and for a diesel =
£1455.48
which means a saving of
£306.48
Three-hundred quid is three-hundred quid. It's a fair chunk. I'd like to have an extra three-hundred quid at the end of the year, but the question is... are you willing to trade your S2000 for a boring, ten-a-penny Teutonic Tractor for the sake of three-hundred quid? The answer should be NO!
Based on the latest average prices, let's say Shell Regular is £1.33 per litre, Shell V-Power is £1.42 and Diesel is £1.38.
I don't know your holiday entitlement, so we'll say it's 20 days per annum. The are 8 Bank Holidays this year too.
So...
52 weeks x 5 working days = 260 working days.
260 - (8 Bank Holidays + 20 days holiday entitlement) = 232 working days total this year.
You're doing 40 miles per day. 40 x 232 = 9280 miles per annum (of course, this is excluding weekends and other trips etc., but let's just stick to working days for now).
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You're seeing 28 MPG with Shell Regular.
9280 / 28 = 331.42857142857142 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1506.7041142857142 litres total.
At £1.33 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1506.7041142857142 x £1.33)
£2003.916472
or rounded up
£2003.92
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You're seeing 34 MPG with Shell V-Power.
9280 / 34 = 272.94117647058823 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1240.8151529411764 litres total.
At £1.42 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1240.8151529411764 x £1.42)
£1761.9575171764705
or rounded up
£1761.96
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If you buy a stinky, nasty oil burner, let's say you'll be seeing 40 MPG.
9280 / 40 = 232 gallons per annum.
There are 4.54609 litres per gallon. Litres x gallons per annum = 1054.69288 litres total.
At £1.38 per litre, that's an annual fuel bill of (1054.69288 x £1.38)
£1455.4761744
or rounded up
£1455.48
--------------------
Summary:
Let's ignore the Shell Regular figure, because you shouldn't really be using that (a higher RON is much preferred for smoother running), plus it's obvious that by using V-Power you'll be saving anyway.
The fuel bill to run the S2000 per annum =
£1761.96
and for a diesel =
£1455.48
which means a saving of
£306.48
Three-hundred quid is three-hundred quid. It's a fair chunk. I'd like to have an extra three-hundred quid at the end of the year, but the question is... are you willing to trade your S2000 for a boring, ten-a-penny Teutonic Tractor for the sake of three-hundred quid? The answer should be NO!
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Montag, don't ignore Shell Regular, The numbers prove ordinary unleaded is a false economy in a car designed for high octane.
And,
'Oh no, not another MPG thread'
And,
"the S2K isn't the car to have if you are worried about mpg"
There I've said it, along with if you need to worry about running costs you have bought the wrong car. I know you were all waiting for me to chime in.
And,
'Oh no, not another MPG thread'
And,
"the S2K isn't the car to have if you are worried about mpg"
There I've said it, along with if you need to worry about running costs you have bought the wrong car. I know you were all waiting for me to chime in.






