Ohlins Coilovers more comfortable than stock?
06-03-2016, 02:09 AM
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I'm running Ohlins used to run Meister Rs. The ride on bumpy roads is excellent it stays in contact with the road more of the time inspiring confidence, allowing you to carry more speed in corners and even the straights. Previously the car would skip over bumps in comparison on a mid setting but feel a bit wallowy when on the softer settings on the Meisters.
I would recommend getting them setup properly though by someone who knows what they are doing, so they can recommend a setup dependant on your requirements.
On track I found the stiffest setting to be too stiff even at Donington, I would get thrown offline down the back straight, I didn't even realise there was a bump there before.
I would recommend getting them setup properly though by someone who knows what they are doing, so they can recommend a setup dependant on your requirements.
On track I found the stiffest setting to be too stiff even at Donington, I would get thrown offline down the back straight, I didn't even realise there was a bump there before.
06-03-2016, 02:46 AM
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I've had PSS9s on my previous S, and have Ohlins R&T on my current S.
PSS9s are outstanding on track on the S, as are Ohlins.
I'd have to give the edge to Ohlins for the road, but I wouldn't say they're as comfortable as stock, though my car's ride height with the Ohlins is 25mm lower than stock (as it was with the PSS9's also).
To me the Ohlins feel like they can't be set as stiff as the PSS9's, though the Ohlins have a wider range of incremental settings than the PSS9s. The Ohlins are probably a safer bet because they feel like there's more control under compression which translates to better feedback on the limit - I have no way of validating this however and is just my experience and subject to a lot of variables/expectations/biases. You'll never get round the S's problem-child attitude to wide drift angles but with the Ohlins it's definitely a lot sweeter.
If shopping on price and the Ohlins are cheaper, then I'd go with them. If the PSS9s are cheaper and you're looking at a more track focussed car then you might consider going with them. The Ohlins seem to be a better overall product and would be better value at the same price.
If you're taking it seriously you'd want to change roll-centre adjusters etc. to get the best out of the car and this will cost more than the coilovers alone anyway. J's Racing if you want reliable suspension mods beyond the coilovers.
PSS9s are outstanding on track on the S, as are Ohlins.
I'd have to give the edge to Ohlins for the road, but I wouldn't say they're as comfortable as stock, though my car's ride height with the Ohlins is 25mm lower than stock (as it was with the PSS9's also).
To me the Ohlins feel like they can't be set as stiff as the PSS9's, though the Ohlins have a wider range of incremental settings than the PSS9s. The Ohlins are probably a safer bet because they feel like there's more control under compression which translates to better feedback on the limit - I have no way of validating this however and is just my experience and subject to a lot of variables/expectations/biases. You'll never get round the S's problem-child attitude to wide drift angles but with the Ohlins it's definitely a lot sweeter.
If shopping on price and the Ohlins are cheaper, then I'd go with them. If the PSS9s are cheaper and you're looking at a more track focussed car then you might consider going with them. The Ohlins seem to be a better overall product and would be better value at the same price.
If you're taking it seriously you'd want to change roll-centre adjusters etc. to get the best out of the car and this will cost more than the coilovers alone anyway. J's Racing if you want reliable suspension mods beyond the coilovers.
06-03-2016, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by K3Nguru' timestamp='1464935981' post='23983590
I don't even remember what the stock suspension feels like but IMO, Öhlins R&Ts are very comfortable. The springs that are supplied with the dampers are a lot stiffer than OEM but the dampers are amazing. I'd say they are the only coilovers (in that price range) for your liking. I'm driving on Finnish B roads and Öhlins DFVs are absolutely the best update to my car. If you want softer feel then just buy softer springs.
Does anyone know the supplied Ohlins spring rates and also the stock 2009 spring rates for comparison?
06-03-2016, 04:45 AM
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I'm running Ohlins used to run Meister Rs. The ride on bumpy roads is excellent it stays in contact with the road more of the time inspiring confidence, allowing you to carry more speed in corners and even the straights. Previously the car would skip over bumps in comparison on a mid setting but feel a bit wallowy when on the softer settings on the Meisters.
I would recommend getting them setup properly though by someone who knows what they are doing, so they can recommend a setup dependant on your requirements.
On track I found the stiffest setting to be too stiff even at Donington, I would get thrown offline down the back straight, I didn't even realise there was a bump there before.
I would recommend getting them setup properly though by someone who knows what they are doing, so they can recommend a setup dependant on your requirements.
On track I found the stiffest setting to be too stiff even at Donington, I would get thrown offline down the back straight, I didn't even realise there was a bump there before.
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I've had PSS9s on my previous S, and have Ohlins R&T on my current S.
PSS9s are outstanding on track on the S, as are Ohlins.
I'd have to give the edge to Ohlins for the road, but I wouldn't say they're as comfortable as stock, though my car's ride height with the Ohlins is 25mm lower than stock (as it was with the PSS9's also).
To me the Ohlins feel like they can't be set as stiff as the PSS9's, though the Ohlins have a wider range of incremental settings than the PSS9s. The Ohlins are probably a safer bet because they feel like there's more control under compression which translates to better feedback on the limit - I have no way of validating this however and is just my experience and subject to a lot of variables/expectations/biases. You'll never get round the S's problem-child attitude to wide drift angles but with the Ohlins it's definitely a lot sweeter.
If shopping on price and the Ohlins are cheaper, then I'd go with them. If the PSS9s are cheaper and you're looking at a more track focussed car then you might consider going with them. The Ohlins seem to be a better overall product and would be better value at the same price.
If you're taking it seriously you'd want to change roll-centre adjusters etc. to get the best out of the car and this will cost more than the coilovers alone anyway. J's Racing if you want reliable suspension mods beyond the coilovers.
PSS9s are outstanding on track on the S, as are Ohlins.
I'd have to give the edge to Ohlins for the road, but I wouldn't say they're as comfortable as stock, though my car's ride height with the Ohlins is 25mm lower than stock (as it was with the PSS9's also).
To me the Ohlins feel like they can't be set as stiff as the PSS9's, though the Ohlins have a wider range of incremental settings than the PSS9s. The Ohlins are probably a safer bet because they feel like there's more control under compression which translates to better feedback on the limit - I have no way of validating this however and is just my experience and subject to a lot of variables/expectations/biases. You'll never get round the S's problem-child attitude to wide drift angles but with the Ohlins it's definitely a lot sweeter.
If shopping on price and the Ohlins are cheaper, then I'd go with them. If the PSS9s are cheaper and you're looking at a more track focussed car then you might consider going with them. The Ohlins seem to be a better overall product and would be better value at the same price.
If you're taking it seriously you'd want to change roll-centre adjusters etc. to get the best out of the car and this will cost more than the coilovers alone anyway. J's Racing if you want reliable suspension mods beyond the coilovers.
Can you explain a bit more about the 'problem child' ? I think I read previously that under compression the rear toe increases causing instability - this was improved on the facelift subframe but still not eliminated.
Lastly, I don't particularly want to lower my car as I like the ground clearance. Do you know if you can set the Ohlins at the stock height?
06-03-2016, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rexer200' timestamp='1464941220' post='23983617
[quote name='K3Nguru' timestamp='1464935981' post='23983590']
I don't even remember what the stock suspension feels like but IMO, Öhlins R&Ts are very comfortable. The springs that are supplied with the dampers are a lot stiffer than OEM but the dampers are amazing. I'd say they are the only coilovers (in that price range) for your liking. I'm driving on Finnish B roads and Öhlins DFVs are absolutely the best update to my car. If you want softer feel then just buy softer springs.
I don't even remember what the stock suspension feels like but IMO, Öhlins R&Ts are very comfortable. The springs that are supplied with the dampers are a lot stiffer than OEM but the dampers are amazing. I'd say they are the only coilovers (in that price range) for your liking. I'm driving on Finnish B roads and Öhlins DFVs are absolutely the best update to my car. If you want softer feel then just buy softer springs.
Does anyone know the supplied Ohlins spring rates and also the stock 2009 spring rates for comparison?
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Thanks. Does anyone know what the stock spring rates on a 2009 S2000 are?
06-03-2016, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rexer200' timestamp='1464958688' post='23983790
Thanks. Does anyone know what the stock spring rates on a 2009 S2000 are?
280F 294R
So the Ohlins spring rates are almost twice the stock UK rates!
