Oxygen sensor
Originally Posted by MB,Mar 15 2008, 02:26 PM
Not a myth in my case
i've changed 2 on the S (to fit a wideband) and also 2 on Impreza's and none would solder. Odd.
Not sure what material they were. Maybe some differ.
ECU does take the raw voltage AFAIK, and looks at it all the time in a constant feedback loop, even on VTEC (althoug it becomes passive). It references against the ground signal.
Way OT now though
i've changed 2 on the S (to fit a wideband) and also 2 on Impreza's and none would solder. Odd.Not sure what material they were. Maybe some differ.
ECU does take the raw voltage AFAIK, and looks at it all the time in a constant feedback loop, even on VTEC (althoug it becomes passive). It references against the ground signal.
Way OT now though

There certainly isn't any special wiring used in the OEM Toyota stuff I used to work with
iv'e never been able to solder lambda wires, as MB says it just wont happen
but i'm always wary of non genuine parts like these as i have had no end of problems fitting after market electrical parts. they just dont seem to work the same even when they test out ok
but the lambda has to switch voltage very quickly from 0 up to 1 volt (should be too quick for most volt meters) if you can read the voltage rising and dropping then it's probably too slow
HTH
but i'm always wary of non genuine parts like these as i have had no end of problems fitting after market electrical parts. they just dont seem to work the same even when they test out ok
but the lambda has to switch voltage very quickly from 0 up to 1 volt (should be too quick for most volt meters) if you can read the voltage rising and dropping then it's probably too slow
HTH
It should switch roughly once per second when in closed loop so a decent meter will pick up the signal fine although a scope can be handy for taking a more detailed look. A conventional sensor (whether 1v or 5v, 1,3 or 4 wire) does only indicate rich or weak, a wideband sensor will show how rich or weak but you can't test them in the same way, they generally have 5 wires.
Originally Posted by Si2k,Mar 15 2008, 12:57 PM
I never had this problem when I replaced mine. I think this is a bit of myth, I certainly can't think of a reason why,
Originally Posted by MB,Mar 16 2008, 10:12 PM
Where does frequency come into it? All the ECU cares about is voltage.
the revs will rise and fall as the mixture changes slowly from lean to rich and visa versa
it has to be a fast change
3hz sound about right to me
Originally Posted by MB,Mar 16 2008, 09:12 PM
Where does frequency come into it? All the ECU cares about is voltage.
Imagine barry chuckles to me to you. eventually you get it about right, you need enough ossicilations for accurate fuel control.
Anything less than 3hz suggests the sensor is fecked and needs replacing, the ECU will detect this and throw up a CEL.
It can't just look at the raw voltage as it would have to be incredible accurate and also the voltage will change related to temperature.




