Rolling Road
I've got quite a good idea for this thread. Would somebody take a min to explain how these results are gained.
I know its a rolling road but just how does the machine get stats like 'drag', 'torque', etc?
I`m intrigued, I can't be the only one. Are there any sensonrs attached to your car or is it purely the car on a set of rollers and thats it?
I know its a rolling road but just how does the machine get stats like 'drag', 'torque', etc?
I`m intrigued, I can't be the only one. Are there any sensonrs attached to your car or is it purely the car on a set of rollers and thats it?
Originally Posted by cheshire_carper' date='Jan 30 2005, 09:03 AM
I`m intrigued, I can't be the only one.
Me too.They measured the rear wheel HP using rollers. They also stuck a sensor up the exhast pipe to check fueling emissions.
I would imagine that the rollers would also be able to measure torque.
Normally the operator would input the air temp directly into the machine, not add a percentage number.
This, and the coastdown losses, are a common way for owners to be duped when using RRs. The first run before any tweaking occurs will be setup correctly, and the 2nd run will either have a wildly different temp or coastdown loss put in, so the power looks higher.
Please be aware that any RR is only any good for comparison between cars on the same day. Don't get too hung up on any of the figures!
This, and the coastdown losses, are a common way for owners to be duped when using RRs. The first run before any tweaking occurs will be setup correctly, and the 2nd run will either have a wildly different temp or coastdown loss put in, so the power looks higher.

Please be aware that any RR is only any good for comparison between cars on the same day. Don't get too hung up on any of the figures!
If anyone wants to read more about this, here's some good articles:
THE DANGERS OF ROLLING ROAD "FLYWHEEL" BHP FIGURES
COASTDOWN LOSSES
oh, and Transmission Losses - The Last Piece Of The Jigsaw
THE DANGERS OF ROLLING ROAD "FLYWHEEL" BHP FIGURES
COASTDOWN LOSSES
oh, and Transmission Losses - The Last Piece Of The Jigsaw
Originally Posted by StevenM' date='Jan 30 2005, 09:12 AM
Air Temperature ..... this can make a big difference to the results.
If so, where is the inlet air pressure correction and where on the inlet is the temperature measured (for accuracy it would ideally be at the throttle body inlet (i.e. what the engine actually sees including any losses and including intake ram effects).
Humidity can also make a big difference to measured power and there isn't any allowance made for that anywhere either.
Also, what was the repeatability like on the rollers?
Just interested.
Andy



