Hello all, me again.......sorry.

Right, well I actually have two questions.

Firstly, I distinctly remember starting a thread on here asking about the speed awareness course and if anyone has been on it. I now cannot seem to find it anywhere, did I dream posting it???

Secondly and more importantly, it

 

Here's your other thread.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=583624

As for lowering VTEC engagement point, then yes.

Simplest and cheapest way Apexi VAFC, ECU resets potentially needed often.
I have an unused VAFC you could have cheap.

More expensive but better, aftermarket ECU, either fully programmable or something from the likes of Spoon, J's or Mugen which changes to another 'better' fixed point.

 

I think your thread was moved to UK Car Talk.


As for lowering the revs. I think a few people have done it - wouldn't know how though

 

Think your getting confused with car control course. It is recommended If youve never driven a rear wheel drive car with no driver aids before, other wise it takes time and patience.

As for VTEC, no you cant change the VTEC, unless you get something like a VTEC controller (Apexi do one) , but many people see these as a waste of time. The standard VTEc kick in is 6000 rpm to 9000 rpm.

Hope this helps.

 

Doesn't Unichip allow you to control VTEC as well?

 

Changing the VTEC point won't do much in isolation. Honda developed the car to ensure the highest output was achieved throughout the rev range to maximise power delivery and economy. This is why most cars have no significant 'kick' at VTEC (pre 2002 excepted). If you alter the point where VTEC engages, there won't be much benefit overall to the power curve and fuel economy will probably be worse. There are various threads on the subject.

If you get an Apexi VAFC you may well benefit from the additional fuel tuning available. However, the ECU will need to be reset at regular intervals to prevent it from 'learning' and compensating for the new settings.

The aftermarket ECU's like J's (rated by many as the best), Spoon and Mugen (rated by many as the worst as it lacks knock control) are tuned to work best with the respective engine modifications and the VTEC point is adjusted to reflect this.

I've looked into numerous EMU's and piggyback's and, from memory, this is what the general consensus was.

MB is the one to speak to in depth with about it.

 

FD2s VTEC 'kick' is fairly pronounced. I'll dig out the dyno as there's a huge leap in peak torque and changeover. Certainly much more pronounced that Martins S2000.

 

I thought with i-VTEC it was supposed to be even smoother. Does the FD2 type R come with a more aggressive VTEC cam profile or is it the ECU?

 

I think Honda could make it smoother but they don't to improve the vtec kick feeling

 

From the looks of the dyno it's a mixture of fuelling and final drive that generates the extra torque thus feeling more kick like and I'm pretty sure Honda made that deliberately. The difference between the FD2 and the S2000 is enormous.