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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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i have blizzacks and they slide arounds as well. I actually try to do some drift in snow conditions on left and right hand turns to get the feeling of sliding. not for fun, but there's nothing better then preperation. I've been trying to find some open empty parking lots, but havn't found one to learn and test 25mph slides.

blizzaks sidewalls are soft so they feel like sliding even though they are not. so I had to get use to the feeling.

breaking is the ABSOLUTE WORST thing you can do when you are in a slippery turn or already sliding. best is light gas and countersteer.

ABS does nothing for you when you're sliding sideways. as a personal experience breaking while sliding can cause your wheels to lock up, which will stall your car if you didn't press the clutch at the same time. dead engine = no control

Glad you made it out OK.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 04:47 AM
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Glad you came alright, that could have been really bad.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Yeah I saw a car spin out on 88 at 70+ mph it was a scary sight to see!
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Mondo131' date='Jan 18 2009, 10:30 PM
Pressure on the brakes and steering through it smoothly is the key.

Tapping the brakes if slight pressure is sliding, obviously.


When the tail starts to slide, it has no traction. The only way to get more traction to the rear is get weight over the rear tires. ANY braking will transfer MORE weight to the front which will make the rear slide MORE.

Obviously GUNNING the gas to transfer weight to the back isn't going to work either. So now, what you have to to is feather out of the gas EVER so slightly to try to get the tires to slow down enough to catch traction again, but not so much that you transfer weight to the front again.

If you don't believe me, search for "lift throttle oversteer" on google. I am sure there are better explainations to be found on the interwebz.

Glad you are OK, and the car is not TOO bad.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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If you really dont know how to save a slide with your right foot, you can always push the clutch in. Its like being in neutral with no power or no engine braking affecting the rear wheels, and gives you a good chance of saving it.

When I was new to RWD, it wasnt instinctual to get to the right throttle position to save a slide, so once in a while I'd atleast save it from a full spin by stomping the clutch when I was loosing it more and more using the gas pedal. (and yes all this was in a safe environment, not on the road)

Slides that arnt throttle induced are just scary, and very hard to save! Glad your ok.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Alot of good advice about pedal work on here. Just don't forget about steering. Keep your head and steering wheel pointed in the direction you want to go.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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I agree that the advice given here is good, but there is no replacement for experience. Just 1 track day, autox, or advanced driving school can teach you so much in terms of car control.
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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Thanks everyone, I hope this thread helps out others in similar situations, never hurts to know more about your car!
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Old Jan 19, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Some scary sh!t. I spun out in Denver and thankfully no damage to car but a very scary situation. I was transporting my car from LA to Chicago and I got caught in a snow storm with two inches of snow on the ground and summer tires. I know how you feel. Glad to hear you are alright.

Damn you guys need to put your S2000's away in the snow and get a cheap beater......

My Cheap Beater w/ Hankook iPike Snow Tires..... CHEEAAP! Make offer
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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ok so last year at my stealership a customer brought in his white ap1 in the middle of winter for a drivablity issue. a tech and the techs team leader took the car out for a test drive on rt31 and hit a patch of ice. the whole rear end slid around and the poped over a curb and hit a bolder with the driver rear underpanal and was a foor away from a telephone pole. caused 4k worht of damage
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