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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 01:30 AM
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I have an MY00 AP1, and need new tires all around. I bought the car used, and it came with random tires. The front were 205's, rotation!?, tires, while the back 2 were 225's. The handling is worse than a civic si I used to own.

I read the sticky, and it said that the front two 205 tires were actually 215 or something.

I need to know what tire sizes I need to get for oem AP1 wheels, say, with Falken Rt-615's or Bridgestone RE-01R's. -under $500
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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RT615's you'd have to run 225/50-16 rear, 215/45-16 front. The fronts would be way smaller in diameter, not necessarily a great idea (though I have run 225/50 F, 205/45 R at the track with no seriously ill effects).

RE01R sizing is easy, stock sizes are yer only option: 225/50-16 R, 205/55-16

GRM article on RT615 vs. RE01R:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/0420...e-vs-falken.php
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Also check out the Hankook RS2. You can get those in 225/50 for the front and 245/45 for the rear. They won't have the absolute maximum grip of the RE-01R's, but they're no slouch from all accounts I've seen, and they're some of the best bang for the buck tires you can get. Should easily come out to under $500 shipped to your door. Could also do 205/55 front and 245/45 for the rear and save a few dollars.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Yeah, get the Hankooks, great tire for the price and they come in the right sizes
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ZDan,Aug 21 2007, 07:09 AM
(though I have run 225/50 F, 205/45 R at the track with no seriously ill effects).
I think you mixed the numbers or the F and R.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PJCC,Aug 21 2007, 08:21 AM
I think you mixed the numbers or the F and R.
Oops, that'd be 205/45-16 front, 225/50-16 rear.


Speaking of the Hankooks, I've got them on my car, seem to offer a lot of wet and dry grip, and are a very good street tire.

Aesthetics-wise, 225/50-16 front, 245/45-16 rear is a good choice for autoX and track performance, but looks goofy on stock wheels. The fronts are bigger in diameter and bulge out a lot more, so it really looks like the fronts are much bigger than the rears (I thought they'd put the wider tires on the wrong wheels at first when I had a set of VictoRacers these sizes mounted).

For street tires, I went with 205/50-16 front, 245/45-16 rears, Hankook RS2's (on 7" and 8" wheels), so the fronts are a little smaller in diameter than the rears, rather than vice versa. Looks pretty cool
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Did the smaller fronts affect handling and braking? Using 205-50-16 instead of 205-55-16 is a smaller tire.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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thanks for the quick replies. I don't think i'm going to go with RE-01R's after talking to my local wheel works, the total cost came out to be a little above $630 including tax. I forgot to mention I do a lot of driving in the mountains, sharp corners. So would you guys recommend RS2's? especially since winter is coming up?
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chris2002,Aug 21 2007, 10:48 PM
Did the smaller fronts affect handling and braking? Using 205-50-16 instead of 205-55-16 is a smaller tire.
No apparent ill effects. FWIW, 245/45-16 is also a smaller diameter tire than the stock 225/50-16 size. With 245/45 rears, you have the choice of going with 205/55 fronts which are 0.3" LARGER in diameter, or 205/50 fronts, which are 0.5" SMALLER. The smaller-diameter/lower profile fronts look about a million times better. If there is a *minor* change in braking it should increase bias *slightly* to the front. I do think I noticed this when I went with the REALLY REALLY small 205/45-16 fronts at Mont Tremblant recently.

As for handling, theoretically the shorter front sidewalls should improve turn-in responsiveness. I haven't done back-to-back tests of the same tire make/model in 50 vs. 55 aspect ratio, though... Handling remains a high point of S2k ownership with the 205/50s//245/45 RS2's
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by IamAlex,Aug 21 2007, 11:45 PM
thanks for the quick replies. I don't think i'm going to go with RE-01R's after talking to my local wheel works, the total cost came out to be a little above $630 including tax. I forgot to mention I do a lot of driving in the mountains, sharp corners. So would you guys recommend RS2's? especially since winter is coming up?
Does Winter include driving on snow?
If so, you WILL NEED all-season tires.
DO NOT drive on RE01R's in the snow!
DO NOT drive on RS2's in the snow!
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