UMW Formula 1 Discussion Thread
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While I certainly respect Sir Stirling's viewpoint, I don't think that the current F1 world could be characterized as 'not dangerous'. These dudes put their lives on the line every time they get in those cars, and the reason the casualty stats have dropped isn't because they're going slower, it's because the safety systems are better. Just have a look at the violence of energy dissipation that is inherent in any incident and you can see mountains of engineering doing good work keeping people safe.
We've had fatalities in three other major forms of motorsport within the last two years (IndyCar, NASCAR and MotoGP) where the safety technology isn't as advanced as F1. It's still a very real threat.
*Edit: four major forms of motorsport, an Aston Martin driver was killed at Le Mans this year.
We've had fatalities in three other major forms of motorsport within the last two years (IndyCar, NASCAR and MotoGP) where the safety technology isn't as advanced as F1. It's still a very real threat.
*Edit: four major forms of motorsport, an Aston Martin driver was killed at Le Mans this year.
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Well, this was a testing accident and it was a major headline for a long time after it happened. Could be because she was a female driver that it was such a big deal, but I think we'd have heard.
Here's the wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._One_accidents
Just two since, niether in GP scenarios. One at Goodwood in 2000, one in the EuroBOSS series in 2002. Must have been either driving former F1 cars or they themselves were former drivers. There are testing accidents listed higher up, so I think it's safe to say that the list is accurate.
Not really commenting on anything except the safety of the sport these days -- it's a very different world than it used to be, and much for the better.
Here's the wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._One_accidents
Just two since, niether in GP scenarios. One at Goodwood in 2000, one in the EuroBOSS series in 2002. Must have been either driving former F1 cars or they themselves were former drivers. There are testing accidents listed higher up, so I think it's safe to say that the list is accurate.
Not really commenting on anything except the safety of the sport these days -- it's a very different world than it used to be, and much for the better.
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idk dude, brain trauma is like having electrical problems in a car -- you can think you have the problem solved, and then out of the blue something'll get gummed up in the works and your alternator will explode.
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While I certainly respect Sir Stirling's viewpoint, I don't think that the current F1 world could be characterized as 'not dangerous'. These dudes put their lives on the line every time they get in those cars, and the reason the casualty stats have dropped isn't because they're going slower, it's because the safety systems are better. Just have a look at the violence of energy dissipation that is inherent in any incident and you can see mountains of engineering doing good work keeping people safe.
We've had fatalities in three other major forms of motorsport within the last two years (IndyCar, NASCAR and MotoGP) where the safety technology isn't as advanced as F1. It's still a very real threat.
We've had fatalities in three other major forms of motorsport within the last two years (IndyCar, NASCAR and MotoGP) where the safety technology isn't as advanced as F1. It's still a very real threat.
Anyone remember Kubica's crash 4-5 years ago? I thought he was dead for sure, but he walked away.
Or when Weber rolled the car over, the HARD way and landed it on the roof. He was racing the NEXT OUTING!
I'm glad for the safety record. It's not worth people dying. Plus, much of the safety equipment does trickle down to road cars.
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Anybody watch qualifying? Random cars starting on fire again. Vettel finally didn't get pole (Hooray!!!) Lotus along with Mercedes actually looked competitive. I think this race is gonna be closer than the last couple. At least I hope they will be. Definitely staying up to watch this one tonight.
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Originally Posted by Timbagoo' timestamp='1381650247' post='22825039
Dammit! No, surprises, but it was a more entertaining race.
Sam, I'm sorry for your nation's loss at lap 9.
Vettel strikes again!
Sam, I'm sorry for your nation's loss at lap 9.
Vettel strikes again!
Or I already watched it since it was the same as the last 5...
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Would have loved to see Webber ignore the call to pit and see how the race would have played out. My guess is if MW would have known the gap, he would have ignored the call. I think Seb would have caught him because MW's tires would probably being giving up but catching and passing are two different things