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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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I´m looking for strong axles and if I understand it correctly the bolt on DSS axle can handle around the same abuse as a OEM one?
Do you have to change the wheel hub and spline size to use the better model from DSS?

Any other companies making axles to our cars? Would be great to keep the OEM spline size when you live where I live. If one goes I have to wait forever to get a new one.

And last, I know a place that make custom axles for rallycross, some sort of "spring" steel that save your tranny when launching. Are there any good CV joints out there that would work?
Nissan inner and OEM outer? Anyone killed a outer joint yet?

Sorry for a messy post, just need some help thinking here.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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I believe there is a company called gator that makes axles for our cars besides DSS. May do a search for it. Thats the only one's I can think of.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:46 AM
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^ Their customer service is AWFULL! I filled out the spec cheet, never got called. I called them up, guy sounded like a drunkin hillbilly, saidhe would email me, never did. I filled out ANOTHER SPEC SHEET, no call. I would stay far away
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Gator is terrible.. wouldnt use em in my lawnmower.

according to dss the weak point is the small diameter of the splines in the hub. to get stronger than stock you'd have to get their setup with upgraded hubs as well.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Oh, didn´t know that. Hmmm... Should I take the risk and make a pair of Honda/Nissan hybrids? The soft axles might help and save the splines with a little luck.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Your taking a risk no matter what if you keep the stock hubs...
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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Unfortunatly you are at the "All or Nothing" point, meaning either keep the factory axles and diff and just baby them or bite the bullet. Not to mention with a new motor and tranny it is the missing/weak link.

I have done the research myself any there is not question for me that I would choose the Fullblown 8.8 kit if I was planning to do axles. I had an R200 kit last go around but the LSD and gears were 2-3 time more and not as available. You can buy the 8.8 stuff anywhere and now that DSS has supposedly resolved their issues with cars that go around corners it should be pretty resilient. I would recommend that you do the aluminum DS though, I was not particularly impressed with the steel (2) piece unit they offer as standard.

Sorry I could not answer your question directly but there are a lot of smart people before us that have come to the same conculsions.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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According to DSS website for the 2.9 500 HP axles

S2000 500HP Level 2.9 Axles. The unbelievable Level 2.9 axles are now available. These axles are for the extreme street/track machine and designed to handle 500HP forced induction or all-motor (yes that's right) at the wheels. These axles are the result of our extreme track testing. The center bar is borrowed from our track tested Level 3 system, using a new proprietary material and our solid torsional center bars and billet tripod style inners. What really makes these axles stand apart from the rest is the new outer cv made from high grade chromoly that has one of the wildest heat treats known to man. During destructive testing it broke a 300m bar!!! It's designed to fit the standard 28 spline size of the Honda/Acura platforms and these axles come with removable ABS rings. Are you ready for the next major level? Price is for both left and right axles.
But unfortunately like MisMyS said even with better axles, it's going to come down to the weaker of the next two links, the stock rear end or the transmission.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Have the InLine Pro Rear End Kit with the DSS updates axles and they are great - maybe the best thing about the car from InLine (less than impressed with the turbo). Sole shortcoming is the carrier is designed so you have to remove it to change diff fluid - stupid in that it would be an easy fix and we'll do that soon ourselves. Also, the guys at DSS have been very responsive and accomodating in my experience.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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I posted this in another thread, and will post here as well.
I would say STAY AWAY from the DSS 2.9 axles. My original axles got the pitted cv-joints, and stuff are really expensive here in Norway. So i paid just a little more for the DSS axles than a new joint in Norway. Too bad I did.. After just a few weeks of normal driving they were making a lot of sounds when pulling off, in roundabouts etc. They had gotten a BIG slack just from normal driving after a few weeks ( 8 weeks tops). After some arguing, they took them back (through the dealer I bought them from) even though they didn't want to at first. After quite a while (a couple of months?), I got them back. Since they didn't write on the shipping document that they were reapired, I had to pay taxes (25%) ONE MORE TIME. They seemed tight and fine when I got them back, so I put them back on the car. Same shit again. Just a few weeks of normal driving, and this time one time on autocross they were the same shit and the joint got quite a bit of slack again. They will not repair them again, and the dealer will not even answer my e-mails anymore. The least I would expect was to get my money back for this shitty axles.
So I have taken the crappy axles off again, and put the OEM axles back.. I will really recommend you NOT to buy the DSS axles. All this was on my car still being NA and 211whp. I believe I have found the problem too. When I switched back to OEM, I measured the length. The axles were both significantly longer. One of the axles were appr. 16mm longer, and the other one was appr. 18mm longer! So I think they might be "pressed" together from both ends.

Edit: I just want to add that the discussion about returning for repair etc and all contact regarding the issue was with the dealer I bought them from, and not DSS directly. Specified in the post now
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