Honda Pulls out of F1
Originally Posted by STAIN,Mar 18 2009, 10:16 AM
Brawn can sell back to Honda at a ridiculous amount 

Or, to put it another way: I wonder how fast the car would be if it had a Honda engine?
Originally Posted by billyblue,Mar 18 2009, 09:56 AM
Yes, but would Honda be buying the Mercedes engine as well, assuming Mercedes would sell it to Honda?
Or, to put it another way: I wonder how fast the car would be if it had a Honda engine?
Or, to put it another way: I wonder how fast the car would be if it had a Honda engine?
It would be interesting to see how much HP each teams engines make from the 2.4lt V8's...
^ I think Billyblue's point is that, what would be the difference in performance if the car were to use a Honda instead of a Mercedes. The insinuation being that with the Honda, the car would be slower, and would Honda also buy the Mercedes unit to get the speed. Correct me if I am wrong though, billyblue 
In my view, there's probably very little difference in ultimate power output these days with the tight regulations and the standard components, including the engine management, which coincidentally was based on a Mercedes ECU and engine. Having said that, it was reported that the Honda and Renault engines suffered the most loss in power and drivability after the standardised Mercedes ECU was implemented, as they were revving significantly past 19,000rpm.

In my view, there's probably very little difference in ultimate power output these days with the tight regulations and the standard components, including the engine management, which coincidentally was based on a Mercedes ECU and engine. Having said that, it was reported that the Honda and Renault engines suffered the most loss in power and drivability after the standardised Mercedes ECU was implemented, as they were revving significantly past 19,000rpm.
Originally Posted by RedRover,Mar 9 2009, 10:16 AM
So, in your opinion, is this an advance or a backward step?
Put some thought into your answer - it's not easy - there are merits in both alternatives.
Put some thought into your answer - it's not easy - there are merits in both alternatives.
The answer is "Who do you want to answer the question?"
A Traffic Cop may argue that the less skill needed to drive a car from point A to point B the better because there will always be less skilled people out there with enough money to buy a car and inflict themselves on others.
A Greenie may say that the less skill needed, more people will want to drive the more damage to the environment.
A Bus driver may say that with less skill needed the more likely he is of loosing his job due to lack of passengers.
A Petrol station owner may say that it is a good thing coz he'll sell more petrol.
Personally, I drive everyday to different client sites. There are days I wish the little smart had more electronic gadgets because the driving just gets in the way of work. I like not having to deal with turning on/off the lights and wipers and if I had full time adaptive cruising I wouldn't have to worry about stop/go in traffic.
Other days I go for a drive on bendy roads and I wish it didn't have traction control or any of the other gadgets which make it heavier than it needs to (that day)...
Hows is that for a non-answer answer? :-)
Australian Grand Prix free practice session one times
1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.687s
2. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.736s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m26.750s
4. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m27.226s
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.453s
6. BUTTON Brawn 1m27.467s
7. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.642s
8. GLOCK Toyota 1m27.710s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.993s
10. ALONSO Renault 1m28.123s
11. HEIDFELD BMW 1m28.137s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m28.142s
13. KUBICA BMW 1m28.511s
14. FISICHELLA Force India 1m28.603s
15. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.785s
16. HAMILTON McLaren 1m29.042s
17. WEBBER Red Bull 1m29.081s
18. PIQUET Renault 1m29.461s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m29.499s
20. VETTEL Red Bull 1m32.784s
Who knows what fuel levels people were running but these are the times for the very first prac session..
1. ROSBERG Williams 1m26.687s
2. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m26.736s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m26.750s
4. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m27.226s
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m27.453s
6. BUTTON Brawn 1m27.467s
7. MASSA Ferrari 1m27.642s
8. GLOCK Toyota 1m27.710s
9. SUTIL Force India 1m27.993s
10. ALONSO Renault 1m28.123s
11. HEIDFELD BMW 1m28.137s
12. TRULLI Toyota 1m28.142s
13. KUBICA BMW 1m28.511s
14. FISICHELLA Force India 1m28.603s
15. BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m28.785s
16. HAMILTON McLaren 1m29.042s
17. WEBBER Red Bull 1m29.081s
18. PIQUET Renault 1m29.461s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m29.499s
20. VETTEL Red Bull 1m32.784s
Who knows what fuel levels people were running but these are the times for the very first prac session..
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