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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flite,Apr 25 2009, 03:07 PM
The problem with Ferrari isn't Kimi or Massa.... It's Ferrari. The F60 isn't a good car.


And I also think its a very unfair to expect KR/FM to do the same or close to what Schumacher was able to do. Schumacher had it ALL done his way, the team was centered around him. For KR and FM the team consists of, more or less, what was left over from the Schumacher days with a few tweaks and both drivers on equal status.

So for those expecting Schumacher performance in KR or FM skin, is not being very realistic.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MTP04,Apr 27 2009, 05:29 PM
For KR and FM the team consists of, more or less, what was left over from the Schumacher days with a few tweaks and both drivers on equal status.
That is basically 99% of the team...MS, RB and JT do not make up an entire team (regardless of how good they are at what they do).

Remember the 1995 - 1998 and 2005 seasons when RB, JT and MS were at Ferrari, but they still did not win...

If you truly think Ferrari's problems are only because the F60 is not good, which it isn't, it is up to the drivers to give the engineers feedback to improve it. Those same engineers (minus NS) are still there. Given that we are only 4 races into this season, we have not really given the engineers much time to react - Spain should be interesting as Ferrari are to have many upgrade ready for then...

My point of making this thread, is that KR has not had a good history of car development, I wasn't trying to compare him to MS - they are not in the same league.

MS helped take a bad team in 1995 and helped them win 6 of 8 WCC from 1999 - 2006. KR had basically the same team around him and has not done much with it. If you look back at his McLaren days - his record is even worse.

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 04:34 AM
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^ I agree with you. They should bring Schumi back into F1 as lead driver, before he kills himself riding motorcycles. There will never be another one like him IMO.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by matrix,Apr 28 2009, 07:30 AM
That is basically 99% of the team...MS, RB and JT do not make up an entire team (regardless of how good they are at what they do).

Remember the 1995 - 1998 and 2005 seasons when RB, JT and MS were at Ferrari, but they still did not win...
No, obviously the three of them combined make a very small percentage of the whole team, but in this case we are talking about quality NOT quantity. Its the vast knowledge and experience they brought to the team to turn it around and make it successful. All three of them were keys players in their own department. I am not saying the current replacements of the three tenors are idiots but it will take some time for them to find their own grove and build their own momentum of success, if the potential is there. Not everyone becomes successful.

1995-1998, unfortunately I didn't even know Formula 1 existed so I can't comment but in 2005 we should all know Ferrari's poor performance was down to the Bridgestone tire being uncompetitive. I believe there were only three teams using the tire and there just wasn't enough testing to develop the tire. It was a tough season to watch.

[QUOTE=matrix,Apr 28 2009, 07:30 AM]If you truly think Ferrari's problems are only because the F60 is not good, which it isn't, it is up to the drivers to give the engineers feedback to improve it. Those same engineers (minus NS) are still there.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MTP04,Apr 28 2009, 04:24 PM
in 2005 we should all know Ferrari's poor performance was down to the Bridgestone tire being uncompetitive. I believe there were only three teams using the tire and there just wasn't enough testing to develop the tire. It was a tough season to watch.
Which is why it has me scratching my head as to why everyone is pointing at management as being the problem this year....we all know the rule changes this year have hit McLaren, BMW and Ferrari hard - yet no one is mentioning management problems at the other teams.

I do agree 2005 was a hard season to watch - I really hated that tire rule (and the existing tire rule). It was put in place for "safety" reasons by the FIA, but I call on that, it was put in place to slow Ferrari down - they had 6 consecutive WCC at that point.

Heres to hoping the Ferrari scheduled Barcelona improvements do just that!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MTP04,Apr 28 2009, 04:24 PM
I wasn't targeting you in my first post, it was just a general post sharing my opinion.
Never thought that for one second, in fact, just the opposite - that is the point of these boards - to discuss and share opinions...
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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I've been taking advantage of Ferrari's misfortunes. I scored a nice pair of Piloti driving shoes in Ferrari red and black for half the original price. WOOT!

Piloti needs to bring out some Brawn colors for more profit!
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Old May 26, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by matrix,Apr 23 2009, 03:48 PM

Never won a WDC with McLaren.
Won one with Ferrari.

Won a total of 9 races in 5 years at McLaren, 7 of which came in the 2005 joke season.
Won a total of 8 races in 2 years + 3 races at Ferrari...

Ferrari is the cursed seat???

IMO KR has always been over-rated...
I agree with you matrix....Kimi...like the F60....way overrated.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 04:11 AM
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Kimi in an S2000!

[QUOTE]Raikkonen ready to go rallying again this weekend
Kimi Raikkonen (FIN) Ferrari. Formula One World Championship, Rd 6, Monaco Grand Prix, Race, Monte-Carlo, Monaco, Sunday, 24 May 2009 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN) talks with JJ Lehto (FIN). Arctic Rally, Rovaniemi, Finland, 22-24 January 2009. Kimi Raikkonen (FIN) FIAT Punto Abarth gets some air. Arctic Rally, Rovaniemi, Finland, 22-24 January 2009.

After an impressive debut performance in January
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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I suppose after this weekend, Vettel is now a horrible driver and so is Hamilton. Alonso is merely a mid-pack driver. Kubica sucks. And Kimi is outstanding again, third only to RB and JB.




(disclaimer, I do think Kubica sucks)
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