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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 04:58 AM
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I have been away for a while, the subtitle of this thread really got me worried...
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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I have always thought of FA and LH as being unfortunate drivers just trying to do their job for a team who got their hand caught in a trap. Well not anymore! If this story is true and FA really had Ferrari information then the whole damn team of McLaren should be stripped of their points. including the drivers.

Alonso admits giving spy evidence to FIA

Posted 08 September 2007 at 17:12 GMT

Reigning world champion Fernando Alonso has admitted to supplying evidence relating to the espionage scandal to F1's governing body. But, with rumours circulating at Monza that his actions were vindictive and designed to help him ease out of his unhappy situation at McLaren, the Spaniard insisted that the FIA forced his hand. "We were obligated to cooperate," Alonso, 26, is quoted as saying by the Spanish newspaper Diario As.

It emerged on Friday at the scene of the Italian grand prix that Max Mosley wrote to all McLaren drivers, threatening them with "serious consequences" if they did not give up written evidence - such as emails - that may implicate their team. "I am a sportsman who loves this sport, and a professional," Alonso said, "and the only option I see is to support the investigation and to contribute when I am required. "And when the highest authority of a sport obligates you to cooperate, there is no way to object - it is not a choice."

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 05:47 AM
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I love the spin put on that story. "But, with rumours circulating at Monza that his actions were vindictive and designed to help him ease out of his unhappy situation at McLaren, the Spaniard insisted that the FIA forced his hand."

So did FA manufacture the email?

How is it vindictive if it's the truth?

Should FA have just hidden that information from the FIA?
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Sep 8 2007, 07:41 AM
No, McLaren beat Ferrari on the track this year on their own, which is why it's so stupid for them to have mishandled these documents.
90% agree - Ferrari have hurt themselves with by not finishing races this year. However, if the FA addition to this story line pans out, I think Simon is partially right as McLaren would have had insider info on Ferrari's setup. McLaren would then have a "known" starting point rather than have to start where Renault did and could have ended up right beside Renault without that info.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Sep 10 2007, 09:04 AM
including the drivers.
the drivers (all) were given amnesty.

talk is, at worst, no constructors points for mclaren.

the "throw them out" argument is problematic too - it would be tough to kick a team out for races/seasons (any team, but especially a front-running team). it would, frankly, be detrimental to the sport in-and-of-itself. it's not like Nascar where there are so may cars in the field (43), that you wouldn't notice if there were 2 less. F1 would feel "hollow" with 2 less cars.

FIA is kinda in a no-win situation. on top of that, both FA and LH have brought mucho dollars to the table - they were saying that FA has increased viewership in spain, a previously weak F1 country, to the tune of millions....i'm sure LH's fantastic rookie effort has done the same in other markets. i know that i've watched with more vigour due to the fantastic M/F battle of this year.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PLYRS 3,Sep 10 2007, 08:55 AM
talk is, at worst, no constructors points for mclaren.
I would be okay with that, but I fear in the end nothing will happen to McLaren, the FIA will continue on in their spineless ways and make some really stupid conclusion as to why they have decided to look the other way. Total BS basically is what I expect, sad to have essentially no respect at all for my sports governing body.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PLYRS 3,Sep 10 2007, 06:55 AM
tit's not like Nascar where there are so may cars in the field (43), that you wouldn't notice if there were 2 less. F1 would feel "hollow" with 2 less cars.
In NASCAR, there wouldn't even be two less in the field. Every race there are about 3-5 cars that don't make the field, so those cars would be racing instead.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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Doubt Mclaren will get thrown out. Toyota admitted to integrating Ferarri code into their software packages and didn't get thrown out.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Balzz,Sep 10 2007, 11:44 AM
Doubt Mclaren will get thrown out.


They should be stripped of points though!
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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Very interesting...

Fernando Alonso has denied that his finish-line antics at Monza were a sign of his growing antipathy towards his team, McLaren.

With the Woking-based team embroiled in the espionage saga, and disgruntled Spaniard Alonso thought to be central to the FIA's new evidence to be presented at the World Motor Sport Council on Thursday, many paddock observers read into the way in which he greeted the chequered flag on Sunday.
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