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FiA and the diffuser hearing

Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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It's getting hot in Paris...

Ferrari's QC Nigel Tozzi - involved for the Italian team in the spy saga of 2007 - led the anti-diffuser argument, slamming Brawn's submission that the appeal is "vindictive" on the basis that teams that did not think of the divisive concept.

Referring to the former Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn, Tozzi said: "Only a person of supreme arrogance would think he is right when so many of his esteemed colleagues would disagree."

The Ferrari counsel also did not hold back on criticising the FIA, noting the inconsistency of having told some teams the diffuser concept is illegal, and then green-lighting the similar solutions of other teams.

"The position of the FIA is totally baffling. We urge you to save the FIA from itself," he told the panel.

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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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"Only a person of supreme arrogance would think he is right when so many of his esteemed colleagues would disagree."

or someone with supreme intelligence and foresight.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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all hail his "supreme arrogance"
been waiting all morning for the verdict. this must be a really good court battle. can we get the tape of this one?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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I thought I heard the ruling was not expected until tomorrow.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 14 2009, 10:10 AM
I thought I heard the ruling was not expected until tomorrow.
Yes, but thanks to the wonders of a large round planet and the creation of time zones, it can be tomorrow there when it is today here.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple-H,Apr 14 2009, 08:13 AM
Yes, but thanks to the wonders of a large round planet and the creation of time zones, it can be tomorrow there when it is today here.
I have enough phone calls with Europe to know it is definitely not tomorrow there when it is mid-morning here.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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well please call someone and find out which way this is going.
okay so i'm a day ahead of myself, its just the kid in me. i love this stuff about f1, the rules are never that clear or someone is unclear in their interpitaion of the rule making for great off track drama.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ytdlite2,Apr 14 2009, 10:28 AM
i love this stuff about f1, the rules are never that clear or someone is unclear in their interpitaion of the rule making for great off track drama.
Yup -


My prediction - rules are revised and the diffusers will have to change but the wins count. Same as last year's ruling on the flexi-floor.

Funny how last year around the flexi-floor it was taken as Ferrari cheating in some media circles and on this forum, while me and a few others said it was actually a rule interpretation problem.

This year, no one is calling it cheating, but a rule interpretation problem...FINALLY!
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by matrix,Apr 14 2009, 08:42 AM
Funny how last year around the flexi-floor it was taken as Ferrari cheating in some media circles and on this forum, while me and a few others said it was actually a rule interpretation problem.

This year, no one is calling it cheating, but a rule interpretation problem...FINALLY!
What are you talking about? Half the grid is calling it cheating.

You take this self-identification with Ferrari WAY too far.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Apr 14 2009, 10:45 AM
What are you talking about? Half the grid is calling it cheating.

You take this self-identification with Ferrari WAY too far.
No they aren't - they are asking for the rules to be clarified. Let me remind you that McLaren called Ferrari cheaters last year and Ferrari went after them for it and McLaren had to retract the comment and apologize. Even more hilarious is when McLaren had to modify their OWN floor because it no longer meet the new rule....

You take this self-identification with Ferrari WAY too far.
Stick to the topic.
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