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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by magician,Mar 26 2008, 04:32 PM
Basketball - invented in the US
Sorry, your theory falls apart here...

Basketball was invented by a Canadian!
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:48 PM
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magician seems to have a good point on how prideful the us is about things that it invents.

doug, watkins' long track looks pretty sweet for a usgp to be held at.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Doug won't be back online until tomorrow morning but I'll put in my two cents I've been to an IRL race at Watkins Glen (2005) and drove there last October at a track school.

The track used to host the USGP many years ago but the current facilities are getting old and nowhere near "upscale" enough for the current F1 crowd to consider coming to

Having been to the town a number times I can not imagine where all the people would stay either... most of the hotels are fairly small with the exception of the new one currently under construction.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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Mike's right about F1 in America but the reason my NASCAR-watching associates give is, to me, dumber than a box of rocks. Each and every one of them doesn't like F1 because "there are not enough lead changes." Grrrr.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by samerthehammer,Mar 26 2008, 02:48 PM
magician seems to have a good point on how prideful the us is about things that it invents.
And who isn't?

In England and their former colonoes they love Cricket. Nobody else does. Does that make them excessively "prideful"?

Where I'm from, we love salmon. Where I went to college, they loved lobster. In Carolina, they love BBQ pork. It's all good.

There's no reason every place has to be the same as every other place. F1 can call itself the World Championship and the MLB can call their championship the World Series, but neither one necessarily means that everyone in the world is expected to care about it.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by matrix,Mar 26 2008, 01:38 PM
Sorry, your theory falls apart here...

Basketball was invented by a Canadian!
Sorry, but you need to read more carefully.

I didn't say that basketball was invented by an American; I said that it was invented in America.

While it's true that Dr. James Naismith was Canadian, he invented basketball in Springfield, Massachusetts which, if memory serve, is in the United States.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mikegarrison,Mar 26 2008, 02:44 PM
And who isn't?

In England and their former colonoes they love Cricket. Nobody else does. Does that make them excessively "prideful"?

Where I'm from, we love salmon. Where I went to college, they loved lobster. In Carolina, they love BBQ pork. It's all good.

There's no reason every place has to be the same as every other place. F1 can call itself the World Championship and the MLB can call their championship the World Series, but neither one necessarily means that everyone in the world is expected to care about it.
You seem to be missing the point.

It isn't that Americans love things invented in America, it's that they distinctly don't love things not invented in America .

Only if you love salmon, but hate lobster and BBQ pork because they're from somewhere else would your example be on point.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by magician,Mar 26 2008, 04:53 PM
It isn't that Americans love things invented in America, it's that they distinctly don't love things not invented in America.
You seem to be missing MY point. There's nothing special about Americans in this regard. Try chatting about baseball in Europe.

Not caring about F1 or FIFA or rugby or sumo wrestling or team handball does not mean Americans hate them because they are from somewhere else. It just means they don't know and don't care.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Penforhire,Mar 26 2008, 06:39 PM
Mike's right about F1 in America but the reason my NASCAR-watching associates give is, to me, dumber than a box of rocks. Each and every one of them doesn't like F1 because "there are not enough lead changes." Grrrr.
Sadly what most of them mean is: "There are not enough 12 car crashes"
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tadashi,Mar 26 2008, 05:12 PM
Sadly what most of them mean is: "There are not enough 12 car crashes"
Not really. You have to admit, even F1 itself is trying to increase overtaking opportunities. About 1/2 of NASCAR races end with at least two drivers having a realistic chance of catching the leader on the last lap or two. Maybe one race a year ends that way in F1, if that often.

That doesn't mean NASCAR or F1 is better, just different. But just as there are too many crashes in NASCAR, there are too many parades in F1. Both types of racing have their downsides, and both can be very exciting when everything comes together in a classic battle for position.
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