California - Bay Area S2000 Owners California Bay Area S2000 Owners Group

Lower End & Input Seal Failure

Thread Tools
 
Old Jan 18, 2011 | 03:56 PM
  #1  
flyinchop's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
From: East Bay
Default Lower End & Input Seal Failure

Hey Everyone,

So I had the S out pretty much all day Saturday & when I got home I noticed a faint smell of burning oil. Strange.....well the next morning I had a small puddle of oil on the garage floor and noticed oil dripping from the bottom of where the transmission connects to the engine.

I took it to the dealership and they told me that the lower end & input shaft seal was leaking. They are going to replace it as the car is still under warranty, so I'm thankful for that. That would have been an expensive one because they have to drop the transmission to fix the seal. Honda says that this is highly unusual failure given the age and mileage on the car. (07' with 18500 mi).

Anywho, has anyone had problems with these seals before on their S? What would cause this failure in the first place? Any insights?
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:06 PM
  #2  
macr88's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14,847
Likes: 10
From: Emmett
Default

Possibly over filling the transmission with fluid or you just got unlucky and got a bad seal.
Just a guess and I haven't heard of this happening with others or at least it isn't a common problem.

BTW are you referring to the transmission input seal because that's what I think you're referring to.
Lower end usually refers to the block and on the block is a front main seal and a rear main seal.
The transmission has an input and output seal.
Reply
Old Jan 18, 2011 | 04:48 PM
  #3  
RWD_RCKT's Avatar
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 0
From: Driving around idiots in TX
Default

That leak is also a common occurrence when people spill oil as they are filling the engine back up with oil. It drips right down the back of the engine.

Hopefully you didn't replace a seal that didn't need to be replaced. You should take this as an opportunity to change flywheels or do some mods!!!
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:21 AM
  #4  
flyinchop's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
From: East Bay
Default

Originally Posted by macr88,Jan 18 2011, 05:06 PM
BTW are you referring to the transmission input seal because that's what I think you're referring to.
Lower end usually refers to the block and on the block is a front main seal and a rear main seal.
The transmission has an input and output seal.
Based on what the service advisor described, it sounds like it is the transmission input seal. They have to drop the transmission to replace the seal. It could have resulted from overfilling as I had a "30k" mile service done the week prior.

I'm also wondering if I should take the opportunity to replace/upgrade any parts such as the clutch..........i'm trying to keep everything stock though. (Yeah, I know. I'm one of those guys).
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:25 AM
  #5  
macr88's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14,847
Likes: 10
From: Emmett
Default

Stock AP1 flywheel and pressure plate is what I would do, your disc should be fine.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:39 AM
  #6  
Voodoo_S2K's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 17,792
Likes: 4
From: Bay Area, California
Default

Originally Posted by macr88,Jan 19 2011, 10:25 AM
Stock AP1 flywheel and pressure plate is what I would do, your disc should be fine.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:50 AM
  #7  
RWD_RCKT's Avatar
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 0
From: Driving around idiots in TX
Default

Originally Posted by flyinchop,Jan 19 2011, 01:21 PM
It could have resulted from overfilling as I had a "30k" mile service done the week prior.
It is not from overfilling... it is from spilling the oil when adding. Regardless of what happened... get the AP1 flywheel at a minimum!!!
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 11:50 AM
  #8  
macr88's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14,847
Likes: 10
From: Emmett
Default

Originally Posted by RWD_RCKT,Jan 19 2011, 11:50 AM
It is not from overfilling... it is from spilling the oil when . Regardless of what happened... get the AP1 flywheel at a minimum!!!
Wow!! that sucks but I guess he now has a chance to get some upgrades all because someone couldn't get it in the hole.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:05 PM
  #9  
RWD_RCKT's Avatar
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 3,451
Likes: 0
From: Driving around idiots in TX
Default

Originally Posted by macr88,Jan 19 2011, 03:50 PM
all because someone couldn't get it in the hole.
I creampie'd my own filler hole ... that's how I found the problem.
Reply
Old Jan 19, 2011 | 12:38 PM
  #10  
macr88's Avatar
Former Moderator
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 14,847
Likes: 10
From: Emmett
Default

Originally Posted by RWD_RCKT,Jan 19 2011, 01:05 PM
I creampie'd my own filler hole ... that's how I found the problem.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PrOsPeCt S
S2000 Under The Hood
6
Jan 17, 2010 06:10 AM
wilburS2K
S2000 Under The Hood
9
Apr 12, 2008 10:56 AM
Ronin2k
S2000 Talk
9
Feb 22, 2006 06:09 AM
MS2KJ
S2000 Talk
3
Mar 16, 2005 06:39 AM
redleader
S2000 Under The Hood
1
Sep 10, 2001 09:45 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:29 PM.